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Guys with yachts; At the Jamboree
Topic Started: Jul 25 2017, 08:51 PM (582 Views)
Jolly
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Like many times, any type of nuance or cultural reference evades Ax. I'll try to help.

Here's the money shot:

But the big thing, never quit, never give up; do something you love. When you do something you love as a Scout, I see that you love it. But when you do something that you love, you'll never fail. What you're going to do is give it a shot again and again and again. You're ultimately going to be successful.

That's momentum. You find something you're good at, something you love to do and you keep going. To walk away is to lose your compass bearing. Trump didn't talk about money, he talked about success. Money, of course is important, but when you are a man like Trump, money is no longer what you strive for...And he knows that. Each individual defines his measuring stick for success and as Curly talked about that "one thing", when you find that, don't quit, don't be distracted. Build your momentum and keep it.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Axtremus
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Look at that ... I picked out six things from the Trump speech as examples showing why the speech was criticized, and Larry and Jolly only attempt to rebut one. One out of six. :)
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Form the Chief Scout of BSA:

http://scoutingwire.org/chief-perspective-presidential-visit/
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Larry
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Axtremus
Jul 27 2017, 01:15 PM
Look at that ... I picked out six things from the Trump speech as examples showing why the speech was criticized, and Larry and Jolly only attempt to rebut one. One out of six. :)
There's a reason for that. The issue in this thread is not about the things on your list, although the things you list are contorted and biased - the claim was made that Trump had told a bunch of boy scouts that if youbown a yacht you'll get more pussy.

Your list is typical of whst liberals do - rather than deal with an issue they find uncomfortablev (ie. Stever Miller chewing his foot off again by repeating leftwing nonsense), you want to changebthe subject.

Where in the speech did Trump say that if you own a yacht you'll get more pussy? That is the issue being discussed,
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Steve Miller
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Naw - feel free to discuss the entire speech if you like.
Edited by Steve Miller, Jul 27 2017, 02:05 PM.
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Larry
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The only thing even remotely wrong with his speech is that he brought politics into a speech that traditionally had not had politics discussed by other presidents. Big f*cking deal, Steve.

But you come here claiming that Trump told a bunch of boy scouts that if they get rich and buy a yacht, they'll get more pussy. My God man, even *you* ought to be able to figure out what an ass you made of yourself with that claim.

Other than the politics thing, the speech was just fine. And I'm not even against him discussing politics in front of boy scouts.
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Rainman
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It does get rather absurd.
Every day. Any word, any phrase, any anything, just to pick away non-stop, as long as it is relentless.
Twist if possible, avoid content and context, just keep on with every potential sound bite.
Find the worst, doesn't matter if it exists or not -- that's the point, isn't it?

Too much blind faith, too much blind hate.

And at the bottom of my TV (muted these days mostly) scrolls "White house tension grows"

ooooh!
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Axtremus
Jul 26 2017, 04:16 PM


-- Actually, Trump's entire account on William Levitt in the that speech, IMO, is not in keeping with the spirit of Scouting as it strongly tilts towards using "making money" to define success. May be an actual Scout like Luke's Dad can comment. :shrug:



That's not the obvious or explicit point of the story.
The dogma lives loudly within me.
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ivorythumper
Jul 27 2017, 03:15 PM
Axtremus
Jul 26 2017, 04:16 PM


-- Actually, Trump's entire account on William Levitt in the that speech, IMO, is not in keeping with the spirit of Scouting as it strongly tilts towards using "making money" to define success. May be an actual Scout like Luke's Dad can comment. :shrug:



That's not the obvious or explicit point of the story.
That's my take on that part of the speech, independent of any story that may or may not have been referenced here or elsewhere.
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Copper
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I don't think Scouts are against making money.

A Scout is Thrifty
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Copper
Jul 27 2017, 03:25 PM
I don't think Scouts are against making money.

A Scout is Thrifty
Trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent. May have left out one or two, it's been of course decades. Funny I still remember all this old nonsense, eh?

Oh, I forgot: own a big yacht. That's new.
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Rainman
Jul 27 2017, 03:40 PM
Copper
Jul 27 2017, 03:25 PM
I don't think Scouts are against making money.

A Scout is Thrifty
Trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent. May have left out one or two, it's been of course decades. Funny I still remember all this old nonsense, eh?

Oh, I forgot: own a big yacht. That's new.
You're still on the pain meds, aren't you? :mellow:

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Jul 27 2017, 03:43 PM
Rainman
Jul 27 2017, 03:40 PM
Copper
Jul 27 2017, 03:25 PM
I don't think Scouts are against making money.

A Scout is Thrifty
Trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent. May have left out one or two, it's been of course decades. Funny I still remember all this old nonsense, eh?

Oh, I forgot: own a big yacht. That's new.
You're still on the pain meds, aren't you? :mellow:

What gave it away? Remembering Scout stuff?

Pain meds, prednisone again, spasm stuff again, saw neurosurgeon a few days ago again.

Yes, Dr. this morning (again), another MRI tonight at 7:00 pm leaving in a few minutes, possible second surgery.

Other than that, I'm just one happy !@#$% guy.

It is what it is, I guess.
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Larry
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This is just how stupid today's left is:


You beat the hell out of the organization until it caved in and started letting homos be scout leaders, and anyone who dared disagree with you was a homophobe and a racist.

Then you took them to court and forced them to remove any mention of God in their meetings, in spite of the fact that written right in their charter from the very beginning are these words:
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Boy Scouts of America believes that no member can grow into the best kind of citizen without recognizing an obligation to God.


Then you tried to force them to let little girls join.

But let Trump talk to them about the virtues of pursuing a job they love, and all of a sudden it's just awful that anyone would say such a thing to a boy scout, so you make up your own f*cking version of it and claim a bare assed lie to be the truth - and twist that into Trump telling them if they get rich and buy a yacht they'll get more pussy.

And the sad part is, those spreading this kind of stupid sh!t think they're intellectually superior.

They truth is, modern liberalism makes you stupid. And this kind of sh!t proves it every single day.

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Steve Miller
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Did you ever have a kid in Scouts, Larry?

Ever volunteer yourself?
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Jolly
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Steve Miller
Jul 27 2017, 05:45 PM
Did you ever have a kid in Scouts, Larry?

Ever volunteer yourself?
Before they changed the title of Scoutmaster to Buggermaster, had a son in the scouts...
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Larry
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Steve Miller
Jul 27 2017, 05:45 PM
Did you ever have a kid in Scouts, Larry?

Ever volunteer yourself?
What in the hell does that have to do with anything other than to just attempt to draw attention away from the point I made?
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Copper
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Larry
Jul 27 2017, 05:14 PM

Then you tried to force them to let little girls join.

The front page story in the post was about a girl at the boy scout rally who was offended because Mr. Trump said something about Mr. Obama and people near her booed Mr. Obama.

I forget what it was called but it was some kind of girls in the boy scouts program - affiliates or auxiliary or something.

The post hates Mr. Obama so much. He has owned their editorial pages for maybe a year and a half now.

Their heads explode every day.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Jolly
Jul 27 2017, 05:48 PM
Steve Miller
Jul 27 2017, 05:45 PM
Did you ever have a kid in Scouts, Larry?

Ever volunteer yourself?
Before they changed the title of Scoutmaster to Buggermaster, had a son in the scouts...
That's a shame.
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Jolly
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Jul 27 2017, 08:04 PM
Jolly
Jul 27 2017, 05:48 PM
Steve Miller
Jul 27 2017, 05:45 PM
Did you ever have a kid in Scouts, Larry?

Ever volunteer yourself?
Before they changed the title of Scoutmaster to Buggermaster, had a son in the scouts...
That's a shame.
I agree.

Homosexual men should not be Scoutmasters. Lesbians should not lead Girl Scout troops.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Axtremus
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Two news themes in one picture:
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Source: http://www.politico.com/gallery/2017/07/28/the-nations-cartoonists-on-the-week-in-politics-002461?slide=1
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Jul 27 2017, 05:52 PM
Larry
Jul 27 2017, 05:14 PM

Then you tried to force them to let little girls join.

The front page story in the post was about a girl at the boy scout rally who was offended because Mr. Trump said something about Mr. Obama and people near her booed Mr. Obama.

I forget what it was called but it was some kind of girls in the boy scouts program - affiliates or auxiliary or something.

The post hates Mr. Obama so much. He has owned their editorial pages for maybe a year and a half now.

Their heads explode every day.

Venture Crew is the auxiliary for college aged boys and girls.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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And religion/God is still a big part of the organization, just in an extremely non-denominational way. References to The Creator, Father, etc...
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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And I already gave my opinion. It was a poor speech, close to being inappropriate, and deserving of a round of "What a dumbass" and moving on. The story has moved from being about a dumb speech and is now about the even more absurd histrionics by Trump's detractors.

Over half if the people going nuts about his speech in other times have thought the BSA to be inappropriate and wanting it shut down.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Rainman
Jul 27 2017, 04:30 PM
Catseye3
Jul 27 2017, 03:43 PM
Rainman
Jul 27 2017, 03:40 PM
Copper
Jul 27 2017, 03:25 PM
I don't think Scouts are against making money.

A Scout is Thrifty
Trustworthy loyal helpful friendly courteous kind obedient cheerful thrifty brave clean and reverent. May have left out one or two, it's been of course decades. Funny I still remember all this old nonsense, eh?

Oh, I forgot: own a big yacht. That's new.
You're still on the pain meds, aren't you? :mellow:

What gave it away? Remembering Scout stuff?

Pain meds, prednisone again, spasm stuff again, saw neurosurgeon a few days ago again.

Yes, Dr. this morning (again), another MRI tonight at 7:00 pm leaving in a few minutes, possible second surgery.

Other than that, I'm just one happy !@#$% guy.

It is what it is, I guess.
Yikes, Rainman! I hope you get the relief you need. :hug:
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
~A.A. Milne
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