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Chauncey, You're a Dick
Topic Started: Jun 23 2017, 12:03 PM (612 Views)
Jolly
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http://www.salon.com/2017/06/22/steve-scalise-is-a-victim-of-political-violence-but-that-does-nothing-to-excuse-his-hateful-politics/
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Another class act:

http://fox42kptm.com/news/local/nebraska-democratic-party-official-ousted-after-controversial-audio-recording-surfaces
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http://www.dailywire.com/news/17820/pulitzer-prize-winning-novelist-i-hope-trump-has-hank-berrien

I'm so old that I remember when hoping that a president fails was considered racist.
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The Left's cheese has slid off their cracker. It's barely been hanging on for years anyway, but this year it completely slid off. For the life of me I can't figure out how a rational, sane person can continue identifying with the Left.
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Jolly
Jun 23 2017, 12:03 PM

Scalise wasn't a victim of political violence. He was a victim of crazy-man-with-a-gun violence.

Let's not gussy this up into some kind of dialogue.
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Jun 23 2017, 02:05 PM
Jolly
Jun 23 2017, 12:03 PM

Scalise wasn't a victim of political violence. He was a victim of crazy-man-with-a-gun violence.

Let's not gussy this up into some kind of dialogue.
Are your eyes naturally brown or are you that full of crap?

Anybody who doesn't think that the assassination attempt on several Republican congressmen wasn't politically motivated, needs to be checked for delusions or an extreme case of the Simples. This was not simple white-crazy-with-a gun violence. If it was, I can think of lots of places to go kill folks besides trying to chase them down on a baseball diamond, in the presence of armed security.

Secondly, WTF does skin color, sexual preference or gender have to do with the fact that the two police responded as they had been trained to do?

This was a biased hit piece written by a biased hater. So yes, there needs to be a dialogue about political hatred and when things go too far...The whole country needs to have this discussion. OTOH, if y'all just absolutely love Trump, keep it up. While his approval ratings are not stellar, people are beginning to become very tired of the witch hunts...Give the people some decent economic news and let him notch a win in one of his dealings with other countries, and I predict you'll see him in the low-to-mid 50's.
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Jolly
Jun 23 2017, 02:38 PM
Catseye3
Jun 23 2017, 02:05 PM
Jolly
Jun 23 2017, 12:03 PM

Scalise wasn't a victim of political violence. He was a victim of crazy-man-with-a-gun violence.

Let's not gussy this up into some kind of dialogue.
Are your eyes naturally brown or are you that full of crap?

Anybody who doesn't think that the assassination attempt on several Republican congressmen wasn't politically motivated, needs to be checked for delusions or an extreme case of the Simples. This was not simple white-crazy-with-a gun violence. If it was, I can think of lots of places to go kill folks besides trying to chase them down on a baseball diamond, in the presence of armed security.

Secondly, WTF does skin color, sexual preference or gender have to do with the fact that the two police responded as they had been trained to do?

This was a biased hit piece written by a biased hater.

His goofy brain landed him on Republicans. He could just as easily have landed on Germans or blacks or Girl Scouts or bus drivers. You're falling for the trappings and missing the true basis.

And knock it off with the insults.

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Jun 23 2017, 02:46 PM
Jolly
Jun 23 2017, 02:38 PM
Catseye3
Jun 23 2017, 02:05 PM
Jolly
Jun 23 2017, 12:03 PM

Scalise wasn't a victim of political violence. He was a victim of crazy-man-with-a-gun violence.

Let's not gussy this up into some kind of dialogue.
Are your eyes naturally brown or are you that full of crap?

Anybody who doesn't think that the assassination attempt on several Republican congressmen wasn't politically motivated, needs to be checked for delusions or an extreme case of the Simples. This was not simple white-crazy-with-a gun violence. If it was, I can think of lots of places to go kill folks besides trying to chase them down on a baseball diamond, in the presence of armed security.

Secondly, WTF does skin color, sexual preference or gender have to do with the fact that the two police responded as they had been trained to do?

This was a biased hit piece written by a biased hater.

His goofy brain landed him on Republicans. He could just as easily have landed on Germans or blacks or Girl Scouts or bus drivers. You're falling for the trappings and missing the true basis.

And knock it off with the insults.

That wasn't an insult, that was a comment on your intelligence or political blindness, whatever is the causative agent.

A man doesn't confirm what political party he wishes to kill, unless he wishes to kill people who are in that political party. A man doesn't carry a hit list in his pocket, containing only members of a single political party, unless he wants to kill people of only that political party. A man does not stake out his political quarry for weeks and then suddenly decide he only wants to shoot targets of opportunity. Hell, even Bernie Sanders knows this nut was politically motivated and immediately disavowed any connection with the man.

The better question becomes, why are you so adamantly protecting this murderer? Does his killing not fit your pre-conceived notion of who is capable or not capable of violence? Or do you simply hate Trump so much, that any Republican is fair game for assassination and the reasons can be blithely explained away or equivocated? Since Trump is the Anti-Christ, the Truth no longer matters?

Lady, get a grip.
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In the first place, I am not adamantly protecting anybody.

In the second place, that rant of yours is entirely unrelated to anything I have posted here. You are flailing.

To hell with it. You're in no position to opine on my not having a grip, believe me.
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Catseye3
Jun 23 2017, 03:00 PM
In the first place, I am not adamantly protecting anybody.

In the second place, that rant of yours is entirely unrelated to anything I have posted here. You are flailing.

To hell with it. You're in no position to opine on my not having a grip, believe me.
I don't base my observation on a single statement by you. I base my opinion on multiple statements by you, consistently trying to minimize the reality that this shooting was politically motivated.

You hate Trump, that is crystal clear. But do not let your hate of Trump blind you to reality.
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I have said in so many words that I don't hate Trump, but that I hate what he's done.

I'm not going to get into all that with you. I disagreed with something you posted, and you took x-treme exception. So be it.
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Catseye3
Jun 23 2017, 02:46 PM

His goofy brain landed him on Republicans. He could just as easily have landed on Germans or blacks or Girl Scouts or bus drivers. You're falling for the trappings and missing the true basis.


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Hodgkinson’s Facebook page shows someone who had a high interest in politics, who supported Bernie Sanders during the presidential election and expressed anger with President Donald Trump and Republican Congressmen

He was a republican hunter.

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Renauda
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HOLY CARP!!!
I'll concede that the deceased shooter probably thought he was making a valid political statement in his actions. The fact is though he was not making any sort of political statement coherent or otherwise. He simply engaged in a mindless criminal act that ought not elicit any type of social response other than unanimous condemnation from all sides.

BTW, I do understand and pretty much agree with what Cats wrote above on the matter.
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Larry
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What has Trump done that you hate?

Do you hate that he has broken the back of the deadliest gang in the country?
Do you hate that he has slowed illegal immigration to its lowest level in decades?
Do you hate that he has put military men in charge of the military and took the handcuffs off them so the military can do its job for the first time in a decade?
Do you hate that he's bringing manufacturing jobs back?
Do you hate that he has put the US back in a leadership position around the world and put a stop to the pathetic "lead from behind" bullsh!t the mental midget Obama thought was so clever?

I don't think you have a clue what you hate that he's actually done. You just don't like the man, and you base you opinion purely on feelings.

As for the man who shot Scalise - yes, he has a history of being an out of control moron. But what fueled his rage was the bombarding a weak minded moron with a constant stream of leftwing hate. Weak minded people are easily swayed like that.
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Jun 23 2017, 03:36 PM
I'll concede that the deceased shooter probably thought he was making a valid political statement in his actions. The fact is though he was not making any sort of political statement coherent or otherwise. He simply engaged in a mindless criminal act that ought not elicit any type of social response other than unanimous condemnation from all sides.

BTW, I do understand and pretty much agree with what Cats wrote above on the matter.
I would think assassination is a pretty definitive political statement.
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As I said, in his mind I am fairly confident he thought so as well. I do in fact think he is probably more a Charlie Giteau than either a Leon Czolgosz, John Wilkes Booth or even a Lee Harvey Oswald.
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People who share with the shooter the same views about Trump and Republicans in general are having difficulty comprehending and accepting that someone with whom they share common political views can be motivated to violence by those same shared beliefs.

For some to maintain Hodgkinson was not inspired by his hatred of Republicans is expected since we also share the planet with those who believe the holocaust did not happen and man did not walk on the moon.
Edited by Tobster, Jun 23 2017, 05:11 PM.
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Millions of Americans would be very pleased and relieved if Trump were assassinated. But of course they'd never admit to that, at least not in public.

And they're the best, kindest, most loving of us. Just ask them.
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I wouldn't, as I already fear political violence in our society. But if he died of a heart attack I would be pleased. Relieved is probably a better word.

In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Such sentiments are shared by people across the world it seems, my Italian girlfriend's cardiologist mother commented the other day that 'we all hope he dies' or something along those lines. My English aunt who is simultaneously the most cultured and the most empathetic human being I've ever come across suggested something similar.

There is of course a big difference between such utterances and acts of physical violence. The latter requires both opportunity and overriding very powerful behavioral norms. The attack on the republicans clearly involved a certain amount crazy in addition to any political considerations.
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Jun 23 2017, 07:55 PM
Millions of Americans would be very pleased and relieved if Trump were assassinated.

Not just Mr. Trump, but any use republican seen on CNN in the last 10 minutes. You can't watch a republican on CNN and not want some harm to befall them.
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Jun 24 2017, 02:46 AM
Such sentiments are shared by people across the world it seems, my Italian girlfriend's cardiologist mother commented the other day that 'we all hope he dies' or something along those lines. My English aunt who is simultaneously the most cultured and the most empathetic human being I've ever come across suggested something similar.

There is of course a big difference between such utterances and acts of physical violence. The latter requires both opportunity and overriding very powerful behavioral norms. The attack on the republicans clearly involved a certain amount crazy in addition to any political considerations.
That's why Trump is so much fun. Nothing like a sharp thumb in the eye of people who don't care for you...
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I never wish ill on anybody, but it would be a bit of the relief if the whole of Washington DC was somehow ejected into deep space and all the inhabitants died screaming in the void. Present company excepted, of course.

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Horace
Jun 23 2017, 07:55 PM
Millions of Americans would be very pleased and relieved if Trump were assassinated. But of course they'd never admit to that, at least not in public.

And they're the best, kindest, most loving of us. Just ask them.
Your northern neighbours would much prefer that he just gets trounced at the ballot box in the 2020 election then forgotten.
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Jun 24 2017, 04:47 AM
Moonbat
Jun 24 2017, 02:46 AM
Such sentiments are shared by people across the world it seems, my Italian girlfriend's cardiologist mother commented the other day that 'we all hope he dies' or something along those lines. My English aunt who is simultaneously the most cultured and the most empathetic human being I've ever come across suggested something similar.

There is of course a big difference between such utterances and acts of physical violence. The latter requires both opportunity and overriding very powerful behavioral norms. The attack on the republicans clearly involved a certain amount crazy in addition to any political considerations.
That's why Trump is so much fun. Nothing like a sharp thumb in the eye of people who don't care for you...
They do care for you, they just don't care for the infant you elected to represent you.
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