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ESPN's Kellerman: NFL 'injecting politics' into games with national anthem
Topic Started: Jun 20 2017, 07:46 AM (289 Views)
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http://www.foxla.com/home/262624382-story

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ESPN's Kellerman: NFL 'injecting politics' into games with national anthem

(Fox News) - ESPN commentator Max Kellerman raised some eyebrows by claiming that the NFL is "injecting politics" into games simply by having a pregame performance of the national anthem.

he discussion on "First Take" centered around a Seattle Seahawks player comparing Colin Kaepernick to Muhammad Ali for his refusal to stand for the Star-Spangled Banner last season.

Kellerman argued that Kaepernick, who remains a free agent after his controversial boycott, "did not go looking for a protest" and is not obligated to stand for the anthem.

"And even if it was a rule that you [have to stand], is that Colin Kaepernick injecting politics in the NFL? No. That’s the NFL injecting politics by playing the national anthem and putting pressure on you to stand for it in the first place," he said.


The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Some reaction

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7JtBErtT8k



The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Unknown sports commentator makes his play for 15 minutes of fame, Fox news obliges.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Mikhailoh
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Oh no. Someone SAID something! Again. Something stupid. Again. :yawn:
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Mikhailoh
Jun 20 2017, 12:48 PM
Oh no. Someone SAID something! Again. Something stupid. Again. :yawn:
Not just anybody, Mik. A boxing commentator said something stupid. This is a momentous occasion.
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Well alrighty, then.
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Mikhailoh
Jun 20 2017, 12:48 PM
Oh no. Someone SAID something! Again. Something stupid. Again. :yawn:
It's a window into what mainstream thought is. And yes, that is within the mainstream.

It's only a very small extension of our ambivalence towards the flag. Flying the flag in front of one's house signals something bad in many quarters of this country. Is that shocking? Are they looking for 15 minutes of fame in their quarter?

This guy won't get his 15 minutes nor was that why he said this. He said it to be a good person, as far as he's concerned.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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HOLY CARP!!!
And for the record I completely agree with those who find loyalty to their own country, simply for loyalty's sake, to be silly.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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I fly the flag every day. It's not a statement, just who we are.
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When I first came to work in the US, some joker put a big picture on the outside of my office door covered in American flags, entitled 'The American Way'. 9 months later I got promoted to manager, so I put a small sign up saying 'My Way or the Highway'.
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Jun 20 2017, 09:27 PM
And for the record I completely agree with those who find loyalty to their own country, simply for loyalty's sake, to be silly.
it is just human nature that people need to be part of something. That "something" can be a country, group, team, religion, etc.
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Jun 22 2017, 11:02 AM
Horace
Jun 20 2017, 09:27 PM
And for the record I completely agree with those who find loyalty to their own country, simply for loyalty's sake, to be silly.
it is just human nature that people need to be part of something. That "something" can be a country, group, team, religion, etc.
Taiwan_Girl,
That's a good point.

It also seems to be human nature that people need an enemy to focus upon to feel good about themselves, where that "something" can be a country, group, team, religion, Trump, Pelosi, neighbor, gophers, family member, media, etc.

Maybe it's somehow more satisfying to be against something, rather than for something. Loyalty is lukewarm OK, but targeted criticism is more rewarding because it includes anger. Virtue signalling SJW's come to mind. Fight against the enemy, real or imagined, and hope for no solution because another enemy is then needed in order to enhance self-worth.

Actually, the above is BS, but I'll post it anyway due to my loyalty to BS. :)


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Rainman, you are maybe close to the truth. I never thought about it that way, but you may be right!
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Jun 22 2017, 11:02 AM
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Jun 20 2017, 09:27 PM
And for the record I completely agree with those who find loyalty to their own country, simply for loyalty's sake, to be silly.
it is just human nature that people need to be part of something. That "something" can be a country, group, team, religion, etc.

I guess some people like being part of something, that's fine but I don't.

But I do like the idea of having a country with employees dedicated to the idea of protecting me from other countries who would like to destroy this country.

These are not imaginary countries, these are countries with leaders who have pledged to destroy us.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Rainman
Jun 22 2017, 11:40 AM
taiwan_girl
Jun 22 2017, 11:02 AM
Horace
Jun 20 2017, 09:27 PM
And for the record I completely agree with those who find loyalty to their own country, simply for loyalty's sake, to be silly.
it is just human nature that people need to be part of something. That "something" can be a country, group, team, religion, etc.
Taiwan_Girl,
That's a good point.

It also seems to be human nature that people need an enemy to focus upon to feel good about themselves, where that "something" can be a country, group, team, religion, Trump, Pelosi, neighbor, gophers, family member, media, etc.

Maybe it's somehow more satisfying to be against something, rather than for something. Loyalty is lukewarm OK, but targeted criticism is more rewarding because it includes anger. Virtue signalling SJW's come to mind. Fight against the enemy, real or imagined, and hope for no solution because another enemy is then needed in order to enhance self-worth.

Actually, the above is BS, but I'll post it anyway due to my loyalty to BS. :)


Soooo ... you've met my mother, Rainman. :lol2:

Yes, you're correct on this stuff, Rainman. I don't fully understand why some people are this way, but I've seen it before, and experienced being the target. I have a couple of elderly relatives who have been acting like this for as long as I have known them. It makes them feel good about themselves.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
~A.A. Milne
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