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| Helmut Kohl dies aged 87 | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 16 2017, 07:39 AM (153 Views) | |
| Klaus | Jun 16 2017, 07:39 AM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/jun/16/helmut-kohl-ex-chancellor-and-architect-of-german-reunification-dies-aged-87 He's still been a lousy chancellor. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| George K | Jun 16 2017, 07:53 AM Post #2 |
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Finally
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RIP, Herr Chancellor. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Jun 16 2017, 09:15 AM Post #3 |
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Cheers
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Why do you say that? I would have sooner said he was your last decent one. |
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| Klaus | Jun 16 2017, 09:43 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Although I hate the social democrat party, they had better chancellors. I liked Helmut Schmidt. And Gerhard Schröder was to a large part responsible for the good economy we have today. Kohl was doing OK in the 1980s. But after the German reunion he became unbearable. His sloppy work was responsible for many of the messes we are in today, such as the Euro situation or Greece. And his contribution to the German reunion is usually overstated, IMO. At the end he was just an old man who couldn't let go, bankrupted his own party, and thought of himself as a demigod. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Piano*Dad | Jun 16 2017, 10:15 AM Post #5 |
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Bull-Carp
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Never lacking in strong opinions are we ...
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| Klaus | Jun 16 2017, 11:44 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Well, I for one admire you for your balanced and subtle opinion on Trump
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| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Klaus | Jun 16 2017, 11:46 AM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Power transforms people. If people have power for a long time, usually that transformation is not positive. We've seen that with Kohl and now with Merkel. I wish we had a term limit. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Piano*Dad | Jun 16 2017, 02:46 PM Post #8 |
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Bull-Carp
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I'll take Kohl over Trump, any day! |
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| Catseye3 | Jun 16 2017, 03:03 PM Post #9 |
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Fulla-Carp
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There's got to be a pun in there somewhere about Trump and coal, but I can't quite get hold of it . . . |
| Chocolate doesn't ask silly questions. Chocolate understands. | |
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| Rainman | Jun 16 2017, 04:28 PM Post #10 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Why would you take a dead guy over an alive guy? Where would you put him? /Ax Mode
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| Catseye3 | Jun 16 2017, 04:40 PM Post #11 |
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Fulla-Carp
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In this case, it might be an improvement. What. Somebody was going to say it. |
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| Piano*Dad | Jun 16 2017, 05:11 PM Post #12 |
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Bull-Carp
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You beat me to it... |
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| Mikhailoh | Jun 16 2017, 05:32 PM Post #13 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Kohl dealt with a hugely different world and country than today. He started with a vast arsenal of Eastern bloc tanks ready to roll across his borders at any time and ended with a reunified Germany. To compare him to today makes little sense. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| jon-nyc | Jun 16 2017, 05:36 PM Post #14 |
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Cheers
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My biggest memory of him was this:
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| jon-nyc | Jun 16 2017, 05:45 PM Post #15 |
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Cheers
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| Piano*Dad | Jun 16 2017, 06:45 PM Post #16 |
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Bull-Carp
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by the Washington bureau chief for Die Welt
Some motivation behind Mr. Bush's message. |
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