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Citing his own tweet; Trump travel ban suffers new court defeat
Topic Started: Jun 12 2017, 11:53 AM (153 Views)
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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40252724

Trump protecting people from Trump.
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Larry
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But it was ok when Jimmy Carter did it. And Bill Clinton, and of course no one said anything when Obama came up with the idea for the ban Trump enacted... right down to which countries to include in the ban.

Lefties are intellectually bankrupt, morally corrupt morons.
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Glad to know that. Such a profound remark. :silly:
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Larry
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For a lefty it's so profound very few can comprehend it. For those not suffering from the mental disease of modern liberalism however, it's just basic knowledge.
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George K
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(I know, it's the National Review. But, some of the points deserve consideration)

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/448571/trump-travel-ban-ninth-circuit-ruling-wrong

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The court yanks from the executive branch powers Congress has clearly delegated to the president. The applicable statute, 8 U.S.C. 1182(f), is broad and clear:
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Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.
Note the key language “whenever the President finds.” The core problem with the Ninth Circuit’s ruling is that it added an extra decision-maker. Now, it’s “whenever the president finds, and a court agrees.” In other words, the Ninth Circuit blocked the executive order because the president didn’t meet its subjective, entirely made-up standard as to when it believes entry of “any class of aliens” would be “detrimental to the interests of the United States.”

It’s not enough to show — as the administration did — that each of the six countries subject to a short immigration pause were either torn apart by jihadist conflict or active enemies of the United States. The Court concocted a strange new test. Here’s the key quote:
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The order does not tie these nationals in any way to terrorist organizations within the six designated countries. It does not identify these nationals as contributors to active conflict or as those responsible for insecure country conditions. It does not provide any link between an individual’s nationality and their propensity to commit terrorism or their inherent dangerousness. In short, the order does not provide a rationale explaining why permitting entry of nationals from the six designated countries under current protocols would be detrimental to the interests of the United States.
Note the dangerous judicial sleight of hand. The court is demanding that the Trump administration make particularized, individualized showings of threat when the administration’s rationale for the pause is that conditions in those countries make that particularized showing difficult and its absence dangerous. Moreover, the court says something that’s simply not true. The order does “provide a rationale” for pausing entry from the six designated countries. In fact, it articulates specific concerns for each country — concerns that the court brushes off with a depth of analysis one would expect from a #Resistance blogger, not from our nation’s leading jurists.
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After months of lower-court activism, the focus of litigation should move to the Supreme Court. One hopes that its justices will remember their role. It is not to subjectively weigh security risks but rather to read statutes and interpret the Constitution. In this case, the statutes are clear. When it comes to determining whether entry of a “class of aliens” would be “detrimental to the interests of the United States,” the president decides. The courts must defer.
My sense is that this will go to SCOTUS, even if the issue is, as Jon mentioned, probably moot.
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Jun 12 2017, 06:16 PM

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In other words, the Ninth Circuit blocked the executive order because the president didn’t meet its subjective, entirely made-up standard



Insanity.

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HOLY CARP!!!
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Jun 12 2017, 06:29 PM
George K
Jun 12 2017, 06:16 PM

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In other words, the Ninth Circuit blocked the executive order because the president didn’t meet its subjective, entirely made-up standard



Insanity.

Rules be damned, people are desperate to be on the right side of history. This is a "sh!t hitting the fan" moment for them. They'll be damned if they waste it by following the rules. They're one of the good guys who would have stood up to the Nazis, and here's proof!
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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