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Comey Testimony
Topic Started: Jun 7 2017, 10:57 PM (1,815 Views)
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John D'Oh
Jun 8 2017, 12:07 PM
George K
Jun 8 2017, 11:28 AM
Which is exactly what I'd expect his lawyer to say.

The bolded part, however, was news to me.
So, he's disputing some of what Comey said.

All politics aside, based on what you've seen over the last couple of years, who would you consider the more likely to be honest, Comey or Trump?

Honest in what way?

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I've heard Jim Comey's an honest to goodness nut job.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Some of you are so obsessed with trying to make it look like Comey said Trump tried to obstruct justice by telling Comey what to do that you have missed the fact that, while Comey did *not* say that about Trump at all, he DID say that Loretta Lynch was guilty of it.
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Jun 8 2017, 12:34 PM
I've heard Jim Comey's an honest to goodness nut job.
OK, second question. This might be a trickier one for some of you for obvious reasons:

All politics aside, based on what you've seen over the last couple of years, who would you consider the more likely to be off his f*cking rocker, Comey or Trump?
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Comey.
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Jun 8 2017, 01:26 PM
Comey.
You're not allowed to answer question 2 before answering question 1.
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Jun 8 2017, 12:32 PM
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Jun 8 2017, 12:07 PM
George K
Jun 8 2017, 11:28 AM
Which is exactly what I'd expect his lawyer to say.

The bolded part, however, was news to me.
So, he's disputing some of what Comey said.

All politics aside, based on what you've seen over the last couple of years, who would you consider the more likely to be honest, Comey or Trump?

Honest in what way?

Honest in the way of not being an orange faced lying knobhead with a ridiculous haircut.
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D'Oh:
Honest in the way of not being an orange faced lying knobhead with a ridiculous haircut.


D'Oh's definition of what the word "honest" means.

You really are filled with a pathological hatred.

Can't help but wonder why.
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Jun 8 2017, 02:01 PM
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D'Oh:
Honest in the way of not being an orange faced lying knobhead with a ridiculous haircut.


D'Oh's definition of what the word "honest" means.

You really are filled with a pathological hatred.

Can't help but wonder why.
Dude, it was a joke.

Wasn't that obvious? He asked a silly question, I clarified it to make the answer easier :lol:

I guess I need to wave a big red flag with 'It's a joke!' on it.
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D'Oh:
Honest in the way of not being an orange faced lying knobhead with a ridiculous haircut.

Yeah, that's your style sometimes. Post a picture, or say something like the above, then hide behind "it's a joke."
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Rainman
Jun 8 2017, 02:01 PM
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D'Oh:
Honest in the way of not being an orange faced lying knobhead with a ridiculous haircut.


D'Oh's definition of what the word "honest" means.

You really are filled with a pathological hatred.

Can't help but wonder why.
I pretty much agree with what D'Oh wrote. I would also add that Trump is the personification of the ever despicable big bourgeois.

And I ain't joking either.
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Jun 8 2017, 02:34 PM
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D'Oh:
Honest in the way of not being an orange faced lying knobhead with a ridiculous haircut.

Yeah, that's your style sometimes. Post a picture, or say something like the above, then hide behind "it's a joke."
I'm not hiding behind anything. I dislike Donald Trump enormously, but I was joking. I was actually laughing at myself and the other people who don't like Trump more than anything, since I asked what was clearly a rhetorical question, and then felt obliged to fill in the blanks for those who were unwilling or unable to rise to the bait.

Since we're being all righteous and humourless, why didn't you chide Larry and others in a similar manner over all those things he writes about Obama and the liberals? Some of which, I have to admit, are pretty funny, although don't tell him I said so.

Or is it only hateful when it's your guy who's the target? (That's another rhetorical question).
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Jun 8 2017, 02:57 PM

Or is it only hateful when it's your guy who's the target? (That's another rhetorical question).

Hateful in what way?
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Did Comey commit a crime with his leaks?

Quite Possibly

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One of the most interesting new disclosures today in the Comey hearing was the admission by former FBI Director James Comey that he intentionally used a “friend” on the Columbia law faculty to leak his memos to the media. Comey says that he did so to force the appointment of a Special Counsel. However, those memos could be viewed as a government record and potential evidence in a criminal investigation.

Notably, Columbia Law School Professor Daniel Richman on a faculty webpage reads that he is “currently an adviser to FBI Director James B. Comey.” Richman specializes in criminal law and criminal procedure.

The problem is that Comey’s description of his use of an FBI computer to create memoranda to file suggests that these are arguably government documents. Comey admitted that he thought he raised the issue with his staff and recognized that they might be needed by the Department or Congress. They read like a type of field 302 form, which are core investigatory documents.

The admission of leaking the memos is problematic given the overall controversy involving leakers undermining the Administration. Indeed, it creates a curious scene of a former director leaking material against the President after the President repeatedly asked him to crack down on leakers.

Besides being subject to Nondisclosure Agreements, Comey falls under federal laws governing the disclosure of classified and nonclassified information. Assuming that the memos were not classified (though it seems odd that it would not be classified even on the confidential level), there is 18 U.S.C. § 641 which makes it a crime to steal, sell, or convey “any record, voucher, money, or thing of value of the United States or of any department or agency thereof.”

There are also ethical and departmental rules against the use of material to damage a former represented person or individual or firm related to prior representation. The FBI website states:
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Dissemination of FBI information is made strictly in accordance with provisions of the Privacy Act; Title 5, United States Code, Section 552a; FBI policy and procedures regarding discretionary release of information in accordance with the Privacy Act; and other applicable federal orders and directives.”

Lawyers generally ask for clients or employers to release information, particularly when it may be detrimental to the firm or the client or someone associated with your prior representation.

By the way, waking up in the middle of the night (as described by Comey) is not generally the best time to decide to leak damaging memos against a sitting president. There are times when coffee and a full night’s sleep (and even conferral with counsel) is recommended. Leaking damaging memos is one of those times. Moreover, if Comey was sure of his right to release the memo, why use a law professor to avoid fingerprints?

I find Comey’s admission to be deeply troubling from a professional and ethical standpoint. Would Director Comey have approved such a rule for FBI agents? Thus, an agent can prepare a memo during office hours on an FBI computer about a meeting related to his service . . . but leak that memo to the media. The Justice Department has long defined what constitutes government documents broadly. It is not clear if Comey had the documents reviewed for classification at the confidential level or confirmed that they would be treated as entirely private property. What is clear is that he did not clear the release of the memos with anyone in the government.

Comey’s statement of a good motivation does not negate the concerns over his chosen means of a leak. Moreover, the timing of the leak most clearly benefited Comey not the cause of a Special Counsel. It was clear at that time that a Special Counsel was likely. More importantly, Comey clearly understood that these memos would be sought. That leads inevitably to the question of both motivation as well as means.
As a blogger comments: "If you felt the need to conceal your actions, they are probably not upstanding actions."
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George K
Jun 8 2017, 11:28 AM
His lawyer made thisstatement:
I totally meant to do that! :lol2:
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So far, the most egregious miscarriage of justice seems to be the Lynch problem that was swept under the rug...

Comey is a political worm. He should be despised by both sides....
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I don't often go next door, but I thought it would be a nice gage of what the other side thought about today's testimony.

If that group is any indication, today let a lot of air out of some pumped up people...
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Jun 8 2017, 04:42 PM
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Jun 8 2017, 11:28 AM
His lawyer made thisstatement:
I totally meant to do that! :lol2:
His lawyer and his doctor appear to have something in common.

I did idly wonder if it was an encoded cry for help, like hostages in the movies who blink in Morse Code when they're on TV.
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Jun 8 2017, 03:35 PM
John D'Oh
Jun 8 2017, 02:57 PM

Or is it only hateful when it's your guy who's the target? (That's another rhetorical question).

Hateful in what way?
Pathologically, apparently.

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Yo D'Oh, you're all wet, son.

Review the testimony from today...J.Edgar Comey has probably broken at least two felony statutes of federal law. Trump was never, repeat never under investigation. The Special Counsel, Mueller, has been compromised by Comey. It has become evident that Lynch and Clinton are worthy of investigation.

Dude, Trump had a good day.
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One of us isn't actually taking this circus seriously.
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John D'Oh
Jun 8 2017, 07:07 PM
One of us isn't actually taking this circus seriously.
I take it seriously for one reason...In my lifetime, which includes Nixon, I ain't never seen the press go in the tank and forget what the hell they exist for, like they do with Trump. Never. Ever. Including the feeding frenzy of Watergate.

This country has some serious problems. We have a looming health crisis. We need more jobs, especially in the hardest hit areas. We have a nuclear power that is absolutely bonkers and represents a clear and present danger. We have a colossal immigration problem. We are going to have to revisit Freedom of Religion. We have a culture of entitlement living in the Beltway, that think they are elected for life. We have some inner cities that are ahead of war zones, when considering the body count to date this year.

And with all this, the damn media is worried about whether there is "collusion" between Trump and the Russians, when it has been repeatedly shown to be just a figment of someone's imagination?

If you are going to be fair to Trump, cover his views on foreign policy, economic policy or immigration policy, or something that actually matters and let the American people debate and decide.

We all know that Obama was judged by his words. Trump will be judged by his deeds. Ok, fair enough. But lets get a bit serious, instead of the crap which cost us a ton of money today and produced very little, except exposing Comey for the political jerk that he is...
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By 'this circus', I meant the TNCR discussion. I think the Comey thing is pretty serious, but I'm honestly not following the details. It will play itself out with or without my input.
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Read Dershowitz's comments from yesterday. They are enlightening...
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