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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 7 2017, 10:57 PM (1,816 Views) | |
| Klaus | Jun 8 2017, 08:42 AM Post #51 |
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Well, I heard him just say that he considered Trump's statement whether he could "let it go" (or something like that) to be an order. So my question was not so hypothetical at all. |
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| Jolly | Jun 8 2017, 08:46 AM Post #52 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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That's supposition, not intent. Look, did Trump probably say that? Yep. Is that a Presidential order? Nope. The investigation proceeded. Ever been around politics? This kind of stuff occurs on a daily basis. Again, if that's it, it's a nothingburger. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jun 8 2017, 08:50 AM Post #53 |
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The biggest mistake Trump made in all of this was in not having Sessions at these meetings. There is a chain of command, and bypassing Sessions opens all kinds of ugliness. |
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| Klaus | Jun 8 2017, 08:50 AM Post #54 |
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You know, what's really frustrating me about you guys is that we all know how differently you would have interpreted this news if this would have been material against Obama and not against Trump. You wouldn't have hesitated for a nanosecond to call for Obama's impeachment. I know it. You know it. You know that I know it. If you'd have a tiny bit of impartiality left you would at least admit that. And no, you are not just doing the same kind of double standard thing that the other side does when the president is from their side. Even if Trump would have been my most favourite politician ever whom I love more than my wife, he'd have lost my support over this. You are blind, and you've lost your sense of balance. |
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| Moonbat | Jun 8 2017, 08:51 AM Post #55 |
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The president asking the head of the FBI to drop an investigation into a member of his team happens on a daily basis? |
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| Larry | Jun 8 2017, 08:53 AM Post #56 |
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What he "considered" it to be has nothing to do with anything. Nor does it change the fact the Comey flat out said Trump did not do it. So yes, your question is a hypothetical. |
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| Horace | Jun 8 2017, 08:53 AM Post #57 |
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This is how Trump runs his business. It's how he knows how to get things done. It's not working too well in this new context. But I see this as what the voters voted for. And I don't see any terrifying tendencies here, though that may put me in the minority. |
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| Larry | Jun 8 2017, 08:59 AM Post #58 |
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He didn't ask him to drop an investigation. He said he hoped Comey could let him go. That is a completely different thing. Comey himself said he didn'rt see Trumps comment as an attempt to stop any investigation into anyone or anything, and he flat out said "no" when asked if he considered Trump's comment as an attempt to obstruct justice. You guys can try all you want to keep your delusions alive, but all the air has been let out of your tires. |
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| George K | Jun 8 2017, 09:07 AM Post #59 |
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Er, no: http://dailycaller.com/2017/06/08/comey-no-trump-didnt-ask-me-to-stop-investigation/
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Moonbat | Jun 8 2017, 09:08 AM Post #60 |
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Comey:
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| Moonbat | Jun 8 2017, 09:10 AM Post #61 |
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Why are you quoting him talking about dropping the Russian investigation in general in reply to me talking about dropping the investigation into Flynn? |
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| George K | Jun 8 2017, 09:11 AM Post #62 |
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Are they not part of the same parcel? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Moonbat | Jun 8 2017, 09:12 AM Post #63 |
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'Trump did not ask me to drop the investigation into Russia' does not contradict 'Trump asked me to drop the investigation into Flynn'. |
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| Copper | Jun 8 2017, 09:17 AM Post #64 |
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No. Many of us questioned Mr. Obama's competence, intent, capabilities and just about everything else. But there wasn't a lot of question about his authority. He had the authority to do a lot of stupid things and he did them. I don't see the Flynn investigation as a big deal, at least not yet. And if Mr. Trump asked/told Mr. Comey to end it that is entirely within his authority. |
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| John Galt | Jun 8 2017, 09:28 AM Post #65 |
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You've got your investigations confused. What Moonbat said (my bolding)
Comey stated that Flynn was under criminal investigation. The Russia investigation is a separate counter-intelligence investigation. |
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| Larry | Jun 8 2017, 09:32 AM Post #66 |
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Leftwing nuttery at its finest.... |
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| Jolly | Jun 8 2017, 10:04 AM Post #67 |
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| Rainman | Jun 8 2017, 10:33 AM Post #68 |
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So, I'm curious about something. Maybe one of you can clue me in. When Comey testifies behind closed doors, how does what he say then work its way into the process for any further actions? If he informs them of facts that would clearly indicate malfeasance, what do they do or how do they do it, when the facts are classified from the public? |
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| kluurs | Jun 8 2017, 10:37 AM Post #69 |
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Paul Ryan did a good job on this - saying that Trump is not yet familiar with protocol. Exempting his inexperienced staff from ethics training will help to provide more opportunities for such gaffs in the future. It does seem clear that the President did try to avoid directly "ordering" Comey to drop the Flynn investigation - but gave the potential appearance of such with the "I hope" wording. Kinda like "it would be a shame if something were to happen to your job" kind of threat that isn't explicit. I do think Trump has watched how investigations produce smoke - and where there's smoke, there is a presumption of fire. That has been a key tool for congress for the past 20 years - investigate, investigate, and when all else fails, investigate. Did wonders for Bill and Hillary. Trump would like to avoid it for himself - but his attacks on the press and intelligence communities combined with his lack of self discipline may not help the cause. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jun 8 2017, 11:01 AM Post #70 |
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BS. That's good business protocol as well. If I'm calling in a subordinate two levels down, the intermediary is coming as well. |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 8 2017, 11:25 AM Post #71 |
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In my experience, the people who break that rule in business are the ones who have personalities similar to Trump. |
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| George K | Jun 8 2017, 11:28 AM Post #72 |
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No question that Trump was, as usual, ham-fisted in dealing with all this. His lawyer made thisstatement: Which is exactly what I'd expect his lawyer to say. The bolded part, however, was news to me. |
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| Copper | Jun 8 2017, 11:31 AM Post #73 |
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CNN: Trump bad Fox: Trump not bad DJIA: Predictable gridlock, the market is happy |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 8 2017, 12:07 PM Post #74 |
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So, he's disputing some of what Comey said. All politics aside, based on what you've seen over the last couple of years, who would you consider the more likely to be honest, Comey or Trump? |
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| George K | Jun 8 2017, 12:16 PM Post #75 |
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I assume that question's rhetorical. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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