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Comey Testimony
Topic Started: Jun 7 2017, 10:57 PM (1,817 Views)
Larry
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What has he said that incriminates Trump in anything? Nothing, that's what.
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See Klaus? Told you.
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There has been nothing - NOTHING- that incriminates Trump in anything. I know that upsets you, but that's just how it is.
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Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:36 AM
There has been nothing - NOTHING- that incriminates Trump in anything.
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Jun 8 2017, 07:26 AM
See Klaus? Told you.
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Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:02 AM
Comey just admitted under oath that the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president, and the president can fire him at will, for no reason at all. I think you two might be talking passed each other.
But nobody is complaining that he couldn't fire Comey.

The issue is whether he use his power as POTUS to stop investigations that might negatively influence him.

For the sake of the argument, let's assume that Trump gave a clear order to stop the investigation of Flynn.

You'd still see no problem at all?
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Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:02 AM
Comey just admitted under oath that the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president, and the president can fire him at will, for no reason at all. I think you two might be talking passed each other.

And he also just said that the president can direct anyone in the Justice Department to start or stop any investigation anytime.

The president has the legal authority to tell the FBI or AG to stop an investigation. In the case being discussed he did not do this, but he has the authority to do so for any reason.

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Jun 8 2017, 07:52 AM
Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:02 AM
Comey just admitted under oath that the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president, and the president can fire him at will, for no reason at all. I think you two might be talking passed each other.
But nobody is complaining that he couldn't fire Comey.

The issue is whether he use his power as POTUS to stop investigations that might negatively influence him.

For the sake of the argument, let's assume that Trump gave a clear order to stop the investigation of Flynn.

You'd still see no problem at all?

Legally there is no problem at all. This is part of the power of the presidency.

Mr. Comey just testified that the president did not give that order, but he could.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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And the Congress can investigate that and take action if they think it is needed.

That is what we are watching on TV right now.

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Comey says he didn't.

So for the sake of argument, let's assume that Trump was caught on video whispering to Putin that once the election was over he would be able to do more...

You'd see no problem with that?
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Jun 8 2017, 07:55 AM
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Jun 8 2017, 07:52 AM
Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:02 AM
Comey just admitted under oath that the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president, and the president can fire him at will, for no reason at all. I think you two might be talking passed each other.
But nobody is complaining that he couldn't fire Comey.

The issue is whether he use his power as POTUS to stop investigations that might negatively influence him.

For the sake of the argument, let's assume that Trump gave a clear order to stop the investigation of Flynn.

You'd still see no problem at all?

Legally there is no problem at all. This is part of the power of the presidency.
I'm no lawyer, especially not in US law, but I doubt your statement.

But even if it were technically legal, it would obviously be a grave violation of the rule of law, more specifically, that the POTUS is not above the law.
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Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:59 AM
Comey says he didn't.

So for the sake of argument, let's assume that Trump was caught on video whispering to Putin that once the election was over he would be able to do more...

You'd see no problem with that?
Yes that would be a problem.

Now answer my question.
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Jun 8 2017, 08:01 AM
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Jun 8 2017, 07:55 AM
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Jun 8 2017, 07:52 AM
Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:02 AM
Comey just admitted under oath that the FBI director serves at the pleasure of the president, and the president can fire him at will, for no reason at all. I think you two might be talking passed each other.
But nobody is complaining that he couldn't fire Comey.

The issue is whether he use his power as POTUS to stop investigations that might negatively influence him.

For the sake of the argument, let's assume that Trump gave a clear order to stop the investigation of Flynn.

You'd still see no problem at all?

Legally there is no problem at all. This is part of the power of the presidency.
I'm no lawyer, especially not in US law, but I doubt your statement.

But even if it were technically legal, it would obviously be a grave violation of the rule of law, more specifically, that the POTUS is not above the law.

My statement is absolutely positively correct.

Also, the president is not above the Congress or the Supreme Court.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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A moot point, since by Comey's own testimony, he didn't do that.

It would also be a grave violation of the rule of law if he ordered everyone in the senate to go outside and piss on the sidewalk. He didn't do that either.
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And the president can legally end the whole thing by pardoning General Flynn.

Does this mean the president is above the law?

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Facts are such inconvenient things...

Not to those of us with an interest in the truth.
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Klaus, Comey himself has already said under oath that it never happened. So your question is based on a hypothetical and not based on any facts in evidence. You may as well have asked me to describe the taste of the cheese on the moon.
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Moonbat, if you were actually interested in the truth you'd be listening to Comey as at this very moment he is laying waste to every single gotcha claim against Trump that you so desperately wish were true.

Bahahahaha
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A moot point, since by Comey's own testimony, he didn't do that.

Except according to Comey's testimony, he did do that:

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I took Trump's "I hope" you can end the Flynn investigation as a "Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest."
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No sense arguing with you. You're a fool.
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Jun 8 2017, 08:12 AM
Moonbat, if you were actually interested in the truth you'd be listening to Comey as at this very moment he is laying waste to every single gotcha claim against Trump that you so desperately wish were true.

Bahahahaha
I am listening to him. He said Trump asked him to stop the investigation into Flynn, that Trump asked him for loyalty and that Trump has lied (though I suppose we all know Trump lies).
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Comey says the self-described "Paper of Record", the New York Times got the story about Trump aides meeting with Russian intelligence "almost entirely wrong."

To wit: Fake news, again.

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Jun 8 2017, 08:02 AM
Larry
Jun 8 2017, 07:59 AM
Comey says he didn't.

So for the sake of argument, let's assume that Trump was caught on video whispering to Putin that once the election was over he would be able to do more...

You'd see no problem with that?
Yes that would be a problem.

Now answer my question.
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Jun 8 2017, 08:15 AM
Larry
Jun 8 2017, 08:12 AM
Moonbat, if you were actually interested in the truth you'd be listening to Comey as at this very moment he is laying waste to every single gotcha claim against Trump that you so desperately wish were true.

Bahahahaha
I am listening to him. He said Trump asked him to stop the investigation into Flynn, that Trump asked him for loyalty and that Trump has lied (though I suppose we all know Trump lies).
And Mr. Comey is a veritable fount of Truth, Justice and the American Way.
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Jun 8 2017, 08:15 AM
Larry
Jun 8 2017, 08:12 AM
Moonbat, if you were actually interested in the truth you'd be listening to Comey as at this very moment he is laying waste to every single gotcha claim against Trump that you so desperately wish were true.

Bahahahaha
I am listening to him. He said Trump asked him to stop the investigation into Flynn, that Trump asked him for loyalty and that Trump has lied (though I suppose we all know Trump lies).
What a twisted version of the facts.
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