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Trump’s budget really could make America great again. Will Congress allow him to do it?
Topic Started: May 22 2017, 06:45 PM (402 Views)
Larry
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How many times and how many ways do I have to explain to you that it is NOT a theory?

Jesus, Steve!

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I have to only one question.

Has there ever been a case, anywhere, where cutting taxes resulted in a net tax ncrease in revenue to the government? Anywhere? Any government? Jesus, anything to give credence to what Laffer says?


YES!! YES!!! YESS!! WATCH THE DAMN VIDEO I GAVE YOU TO WATCH TWICE NOW!! *Every* time taxes are raised beyond a certain point, revenue drops. *Every* time taxes are lowered, revenues increase!

EVERY F*CKING TIME, STEVE!!

Second: I have looked into your "Kansas" thing. You seriously need to stop getting your information from leftwing screeds. As it turns out, things aren't at all the way the Huffington Post claimed. In fact, US News & World Report did a story on it:

https://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2014/10/08/democrats-wrongly-blame-kansas-gov-brownbacks-tax-cuts-for-budget-issues?int=opinion-rec


So did the Kansas City Star:

http://www.kansascity.com/news/local/article35850300.html


Turns out it's mostly politics, as the libtards fight against the governor's ending of the state income tax. Special interest groups, unions, all the leftwing groups are fighting it. You're just drinking their koolaid.

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Jolly
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Steve Miller
May 22 2017, 09:12 PM
Larry
May 22 2017, 09:01 PM
Steve apparently thinks the laffer curve is an ecomonic theory the way capitalism, socialism, and communism are economic theories. That's because he drinks the democrat koolaid, and doesn't understand what the laffer curve is.

You start with to undisputable facts:

1. If you don't tax anyone, you will not have any tax money.
That is an obvious fact.

2. If you tax everyone at 100%, take all their money in taxes, once you've cleaned them out, you will not collect another cent in taxes. You cannot take 100% of nothing.
That is an obvious fact.

All the Laffer Curve is is a mathematical formula for attempting to arrive at the point of diminishing returns, in other words, at what point does increasing the tax rate another percentage point cause revenue to begin dropping - and it WILL drop after a certain point, because item # 2 is an indisputable fact.

It is *not* "trickle down economics", there's no such thing as "trickle down ecomonics". There's just democrat bullsh!t swallowed whole by gullible fools.
I'm a contractor, Larry. I'm not big on theory.

The wall stands, the wall falls. The house is good, the house is ****.
The guy shows up and does his work, the guy does not.

I have to only one question.

Has there ever been a case, anywhere, where cutting taxes resulted in a net tax ncrease in revenue to the government? Anywhere? Any government? Jesus, anything to give credence to what Laffer says?

I want see it, seriously. God knows I like lower taxes.

Save me Larry. I'm counting on you.
If you don't have the money, you can't hire the workers. The more money you have or the more money you have access to, the bigger jobs you can do and the more workers you can hire.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Steve Miller
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Jolly
May 22 2017, 09:37 PM
Steve Miller
May 22 2017, 09:12 PM
Larry
May 22 2017, 09:01 PM
Steve apparently thinks the laffer curve is an ecomonic theory the way capitalism, socialism, and communism are economic theories. That's because he drinks the democrat koolaid, and doesn't understand what the laffer curve is.

You start with to undisputable facts:

1. If you don't tax anyone, you will not have any tax money.
That is an obvious fact.

2. If you tax everyone at 100%, take all their money in taxes, once you've cleaned them out, you will not collect another cent in taxes. You cannot take 100% of nothing.
That is an obvious fact.

All the Laffer Curve is is a mathematical formula for attempting to arrive at the point of diminishing returns, in other words, at what point does increasing the tax rate another percentage point cause revenue to begin dropping - and it WILL drop after a certain point, because item # 2 is an indisputable fact.

It is *not* "trickle down economics", there's no such thing as "trickle down ecomonics". There's just democrat bullsh!t swallowed whole by gullible fools.
I'm a contractor, Larry. I'm not big on theory.

The wall stands, the wall falls. The house is good, the house is ****.
The guy shows up and does his work, the guy does not.

I have to only one question.

Has there ever been a case, anywhere, where cutting taxes resulted in a net tax ncrease in revenue to the government? Anywhere? Any government? Jesus, anything to give credence to what Laffer says?

I want see it, seriously. God knows I like lower taxes.

Save me Larry. I'm counting on you.
If you don't have the money, you can't hire the workers. The more money you have or the more money you have access to, the bigger jobs you can do and the more workers you can hire.
And here it is.

You hire the workers you need to do the positions be you have to fill. If another worker makes you money, you hire that worker. If not, you don't.

Taxes have nothing to do with it. Nothing. Maybe if I'm running a charity, which I am not.

You cut my taxes I am not going to hire workers for the hell of it. They make me money or they don't. My taxes have exactly nothing to do with it.

Arthur Laffer is an idiot.
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Steve Miller
May 22 2017, 09:56 PM
Jolly
May 22 2017, 09:37 PM
Steve Miller
May 22 2017, 09:12 PM
Larry
May 22 2017, 09:01 PM
Steve apparently thinks the laffer curve is an ecomonic theory the way capitalism, socialism, and communism are economic theories. That's because he drinks the democrat koolaid, and doesn't understand what the laffer curve is.

You start with to undisputable facts:

1. If you don't tax anyone, you will not have any tax money.
That is an obvious fact.

2. If you tax everyone at 100%, take all their money in taxes, once you've cleaned them out, you will not collect another cent in taxes. You cannot take 100% of nothing.
That is an obvious fact.

All the Laffer Curve is is a mathematical formula for attempting to arrive at the point of diminishing returns, in other words, at what point does increasing the tax rate another percentage point cause revenue to begin dropping - and it WILL drop after a certain point, because item # 2 is an indisputable fact.

It is *not* "trickle down economics", there's no such thing as "trickle down ecomonics". There's just democrat bullsh!t swallowed whole by gullible fools.
I'm a contractor, Larry. I'm not big on theory.

The wall stands, the wall falls. The house is good, the house is ****.
The guy shows up and does his work, the guy does not.

I have to only one question.

Has there ever been a case, anywhere, where cutting taxes resulted in a net tax ncrease in revenue to the government? Anywhere? Any government? Jesus, anything to give credence to what Laffer says?

I want see it, seriously. God knows I like lower taxes.

Save me Larry. I'm counting on you.
If you don't have the money, you can't hire the workers. The more money you have or the more money you have access to, the bigger jobs you can do and the more workers you can hire.
And here it is.

You hire the workers you need to do the positions be you have to fill. If another worker makes you money, you hire that worker. If not, you don't.

Taxes have nothing to do with it. Nothing. Maybe if I'm running a charity, which I am not.

You cut my taxes I am not going to hire workers for the hell of it. They make me money or they don't. My taxes have exactly nothing to do with it.

Arthur Laffer is an idiot.
Your taxes have everything to do with it. Taxes are a direct drain on your cash flow and your assets.
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Jolly
May 22 2017, 10:04 PM
Steve Miller
May 22 2017, 09:56 PM
Jolly
May 22 2017, 09:37 PM
Steve Miller
May 22 2017, 09:12 PM
Larry
May 22 2017, 09:01 PM
Steve apparently thinks the laffer curve is an ecomonic theory the way capitalism, socialism, and communism are economic theories. That's because he drinks the democrat koolaid, and doesn't understand what the laffer curve is.

You start with to undisputable facts:

1. If you don't tax anyone, you will not have any tax money.
That is an obvious fact.

2. If you tax everyone at 100%, take all their money in taxes, once you've cleaned them out, you will not collect another cent in taxes. You cannot take 100% of nothing.
That is an obvious fact.

All the Laffer Curve is is a mathematical formula for attempting to arrive at the point of diminishing returns, in other words, at what point does increasing the tax rate another percentage point cause revenue to begin dropping - and it WILL drop after a certain point, because item # 2 is an indisputable fact.

It is *not* "trickle down economics", there's no such thing as "trickle down ecomonics". There's just democrat bullsh!t swallowed whole by gullible fools.
I'm a contractor, Larry. I'm not big on theory.

The wall stands, the wall falls. The house is good, the house is ****.
The guy shows up and does his work, the guy does not.

I have to only one question.

Has there ever been a case, anywhere, where cutting taxes resulted in a net tax ncrease in revenue to the government? Anywhere? Any government? Jesus, anything to give credence to what Laffer says?

I want see it, seriously. God knows I like lower taxes.

Save me Larry. I'm counting on you.
If you don't have the money, you can't hire the workers. The more money you have or the more money you have access to, the bigger jobs you can do and the more workers you can hire.
And here it is.

You hire the workers you need to do the positions be you have to fill. If another worker makes you money, you hire that worker. If not, you don't.

Taxes have nothing to do with it. Nothing. Maybe if I'm running a charity, which I am not.

You cut my taxes I am not going to hire workers for the hell of it. They make me money or they don't. My taxes have exactly nothing to do with it.

Arthur Laffer is an idiot.
Your taxes have everything to do with it. Taxes are a direct drain on your cash flow and your assets.
Ack. Taxes have nothing to with whether I hire or not. New employees either make money for me or they don't

Why is this so hard?
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Steve, I honestly mean you no harm... but what you just wrote is utterly stupid.
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Larry
May 22 2017, 10:49 PM
Steve, I honestly mean you no harm... but what you just wrote is utterly stupid.
How so?

Have you ever run a business?
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"Have you ever run a business".....


BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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I'll say this for you Steve - you're entertaining. You couldn't find your ass with a funnel and a roadmap, but you're entertaining.
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Taxes taxes taxes. Its about spending. Does this budget address that? If so I am all in.
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This is just my opinion - I am not a economist. LOL, but just based on my observations of life. I am going to speak in very general terms, so everybody dont get too excited. :)

The traditional Republican outlook is lower taxes and less government control and interference. This results in a "inverted" Bell curve. There are higher numbers of wealthy people and higher numbers of poor people. Less people in the middle.

The traditional Democratic outlook is higher taxes and more government control and interference. This results in a more "traditional" Bell curve. Less wealthy people, but also less poor people. More people in the middle.

If a country goes to more and more control (DPRK, for example), the Bell curve becomes more extreme - everybody is clustered in the middle, but the "height" of the curve is quite a bit lower (overall per capita is lower).

What is the best? Probably a combination of the all of the above. But, it also is very much biased by whether or not you are wealthy or not. And before anyone says anything - no, not everyone can be wealthy in a society.

Edited by taiwan_girl, May 24 2017, 07:06 AM.
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Best is a balanced budget.

You can argue about the rest of it but stealing from our grandchildren is wrong.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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