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Klaus, any good on German history?
Topic Started: May 22 2017, 03:39 PM (90 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Something I wrote in another forum: Hitler and Stalin hated each other, so I think the non-aggression pact would not have stood.

Here's one to ponder...If Hitler had stopped with Czechoslovakia and not invaded Poland, he might have eventually forged an alliance with Britain and Poland against Uncle Joe, provided he did not engage in the Final Solution. Hitler had a soft spot for England.
I don't think it was about personal likes/dislikes.




This is a response I received...Historically accurate?



Poland... I take it you are aware of Germany trying to strike a deal with Poland to get access to Danzig, an isolated German city. They wanted basically a "right of way" with a road and railroad track, not for free of course. It went back and forth and back and forth. I do not know what business it was of England but they really got involved. Urged Poland to not give Germany the Corridor, made deals with Poland,promised support, etc. it is a long story. With England's backing Poland got very 'unfriendly' with Germany and finally Germany invaded Poland from the West.
So England declared War on Germany.
Russia invaded Poland from the East. So England declared war on Russia...
No. Why not? Why on Germany and not on Russia. Invasion is invasion, you would think.

My folks actually lived through that time period, went to school during the 30s, etc. I asked Dad and he told me, he learned in school that the communists were the enemy. That someday they would have to fight them as they want to take over the world.
You probably know that after WW one there was revolution and bloody fights in the cities in GErmany between the communists and the nationalists, right? The State of BAvaria had become the first communist state in Germany. The soviet state of Bavaria. Seriously. The governor was assassinated.
Very hard and very unruly times.
People going hungry, infant mortality four times as high as normal, etc.

Did you watch the video by Jordan Petersen? The communists made the usual utopian promises, as always,, which they never kept anywhere. To this day leftist intellectuals make excuses and ignore the reality of marxism. Look at your own country being overturned by stealth for a long time by 'neo marxists". Same in Europe. Google Eisner and they gush about the stuff he was going to do, what a wonderful communist.

After England made a declaration of War, what were they expecting?
Why does the average Joe think, those evil Germans, bombing nice and peaceful England. Germany made many attempts to come to a peaceful agreement with England. England was not interested. Did you ever hear of the "miracle of Dunkirk?" Maybe it was not a miracle. You know about the vice chanceler actually parachuting into England?

Why did England want war with Germany? WAs England good friends with Poland or did they throw Poland under the bus when it was over and left Poland to become a communist country under Russia? Like 9 other Eastern European countries.

Have you guys heard of Rothschild? Have you looked at how the communist revolution was financed etc? And who were the people who did it?


And why did FDR call Stalin "uncle Joe?"

Water under the bridge, but the chance of Germany forging an alliance with England and Poland against the communists was totally nonexistent.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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John D'Oh
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MAMIL
I'm not Klaus, but I'd humbly suggest that whoever wrote that has some issues to work through.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
John D'Oh
May 22 2017, 03:42 PM
I'm not Klaus, but I'd humbly suggest that whoever wrote that has some issues to work through.
Ok, the Brits are the other side of the coin...Could Britain have cut a deal with Germany, if they could have persuaded the Poles to accept the Danzig Corridor?

Personally, I think the Danzig issue was nothing nothing more than just another straw man argument for Hitler's invasion of Poland. Wouldn't have mattered one way or the other if the right of way would have been granted...
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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John D'Oh
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Hitler wasn't going to stop, as Churchill appreciated early on.

When people start talking about the real enemy being Rothschild, I have to wonder about their motivation.
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Copper
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Jolly
May 22 2017, 03:51 PM

Could Britain have cut a deal with Germany,

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John D'Oh
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May 22 2017, 03:39 PM
And why did FDR call Stalin "uncle Joe?". Water under the bridge, but the chance of Germany forging an alliance with England and Poland against the communists was totally nonexistent.
Particularly with that well known Marxist sympathiser Winston Churchill at the helm.

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Germany made many attempts to come to a peaceful agreement with England. England was not interested. Did you ever hear of the "miracle of Dunkirk?" Maybe it was not a miracle. You know about the vice chanceler actually parachuting into England?


Scotland, actually. Yeah, and Dunkirk was a deliberate Nazi ploy to let off the plucky Brits. And the holocaust was just a misunderstanding.
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Klaus
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HOLY CARP!!!
When I read the title of your post, I was hoping for a microsecond that, for once, this would not be about those 12 years out of 1200 or so years of rich German history ;)

I'll write a proper answer later on when I've got more time.
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