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Killing a boy, just so
Topic Started: May 19 2017, 12:03 AM (138 Views)
Klaus
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HOLY CARP!!!
I can understand why somebody would steal a car.

I can even understand why somebody would kill another man, be it for money, or revenge.

But this I cannot understand.

http://www.clarionledger.com/story/news/local/2017/05/18/jackson-amber-alert/329460001/
Attempto!
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Mikhailoh
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Things like this make me reconsider my opposition to capital punishment.
"Just think of the reporters as being Democrat operatives with bylines, and it will all make sense." GK
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Jolly
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1. Do not leave your child alone in the car.
2. Do not leave the car running. You just put a huge sign on it saying "steal me".
3. This is going to be a slam dunk case, as the other two will roll over on the shooter to save their hides.
4. Execute the one who pulled the trigger. Life for the other two.
5. I promise you, prison time will not be pretty for the two not sentenced to death. Many convicts have children. People who are sent to prison for severely abusing a young child tend to have very short, suffering lives in the pen, because the guards are always looking the other way. And the guards have selective hearing.
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” - Heinlein
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Catseye3
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5. I promise you, prison time will not be pretty for the two not sentenced to death. Many convicts have children. People who are sent to prison for severely abusing a young child tend to have very short, suffering lives in the pen, because the guards are always looking the other way. And the guards have selective hearing.


Yes. Cons even have a special name for these prisoners: Short-eyes. Once you're branded with that name, your doom is assured and probably, the sooner the better.
It Is What It Is.
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Klaus
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Any kind of penalty will not bring the boy back to life. I find the "revenge" impulse, that seems to be a ubiquitous undercurrent in American culture, rather foreign. The culprits must be locked up such that they are no longer a threat to the public, but it is dishonorable for a constitutional democracy to stoop down to their level. It's ineffective, too - there's no evidence that harsh treatment in prison is a deterrent.
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Copper
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Klaus
May 19 2017, 05:11 AM
there's no evidence that harsh treatment in prison is a deterrent.
None?

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Klaus
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Copper
May 19 2017, 05:13 AM
Klaus
May 19 2017, 05:11 AM
there's no evidence that harsh treatment in prison is a deterrent.
None?

Well, if you look at different countries, there is significant correlation between cruelty in prisons and cruelty on the street. If there's evidence, it's evidence to the contrary.
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Jolly
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Klaus
May 19 2017, 05:11 AM
Any kind of penalty will not bring the boy back to life. I find the "revenge" impulse, that seems to be a ubiquitous undercurrent in American culture, rather foreign. The culprits must be locked up such that they are no longer a threat to the public, but it is dishonorable for a constitutional democracy to stoop down to their level. It's ineffective, too - there's no evidence that harsh treatment in prison is a deterrent.
It's not revenge, it's justice. Besides. I think it more humane to hang them and get it over with. The state does not need to spend its resources on such vermin.

I could care less about the deterrent factor. As evidenced through history, creatures who will do heinous acts like this are beyond deterrent or redemption, in almost all cases.
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” - Heinlein
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