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Academics Write Rubbish Nobody Reads
Topic Started: Oct 30 2016, 07:21 AM (201 Views)
George K
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Professors usually spend about three to six months (sometimes longer) researching and writing a 25-page article to submit an article to an academic journal. And most experience a twinge of exci
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Klaus
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Is email useless just because there is a lot of spam email?

What this article fails to mention is that "academic journal" is not "academic journal".

There is a category of journals that are "write only", i.e., nobody ever reads the paper. Because one can basically publish every
piece of junk that way, they get many submission, usually by academics from low-ranked places that couldn't get a paper published at a decent venue. But because it is so easy to get a paper published there, these journals account for the majority of all published papers (if you count just the number of papers). Basically nobody reads these papers, and all citations are self-citations.

But if you get a paper accepted at a good journal, it's completely different. If you get into, say, "Nature" or "Science", your paper is part of the accepted "state of the art"; everyone who works in the area is expected to know it. These papers get hundreds and thousands of citations.

If you look at, say, the top 200 universities world-wide, their publications will only account for a small fraction, say, 1%, of all published papers, but I'm pretty sure that they'll account for 50+% of all citations.

It doesn't make sense to say "Academics Write Rubbish Nobody Reads". It's a much too broad brush. One needs to look a little closer.

Furthermore, no professor I know could spend six months full time on a paper. According to the "Higher Education Research Institute", professors spend, on average, 18% of their time on research, and only a fraction of it is spent on paper writing (as opposed to, say, sitting in the lab performing experiments).
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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John D'Oh
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Dan is the Vice President of Intellectual Takeout. He received his B.A. in Philosophy and Catholic Studies from the University of St. Thomas (MN), and his M.A. and Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Duquesne University in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.


It's no bloody wonder he thinks the way he does about academia based on what he's studied. :lol:
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Nunatax
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Klaus
Oct 30 2016, 07:57 AM
Is email useless just because there is a lot of spam email?

What this article fails to mention is that "academic journal" is not "academic journal".

There is a category of journals that are "write only", i.e., nobody ever reads the paper. Because one can basically publish every
piece of junk that way, they get many submission, usually by academics from low-ranked places that couldn't get a paper published at a decent venue. But because it is so easy to get a paper published there, these journals account for the majority of all published papers (if you count just the number of papers). Basically nobody reads these papers, and all citations are self-citations.

But if you get a paper accepted at a good journal, it's completely different. If you get into, say, "Nature" or "Science", your paper is part of the accepted "state of the art"; everyone who works in the area is expected to know it. These papers get hundreds and thousands of citations.

If you look at, say, the top 200 universities world-wide, their publications will only account for a small fraction, say, 1%, of all published papers, but I'm pretty sure that they'll account for 50+% of all citations.

It doesn't make sense to say "Academics Write Rubbish Nobody Reads". It's a much too broad brush. One needs to look a little closer.

Furthermore, no professor I know could spend six months full time on a paper. According to the "Higher Education Research Institute", professors spend, on average, 18% of their time on research, and only a fraction of it is spent on paper writing (as opposed to, say, sitting in the lab performing experiments).
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