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Well, ain't this a hoot...
Topic Started: Oct 30 2016, 04:33 AM (504 Views)
Jolly
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Florida - Trump +4

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/10/30/upshot/florida-poll.html?_r=0
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Catseye
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Also, from ABC: "A slim point separates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll results, cementing Trump's resurgence in the past week and marking the potentially critical role of turnout in the election's outcome.

The race stands at 46-45 percent, Clinton-Trump, in the latest results, so tight that :rightarrow: the draw by third-party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein could matter." :leftarrow:

Think carefully about what you want to see happen.

"How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
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Jolly
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Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 05:03 AM
Also, from ABC: "A slim point separates Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in the latest ABC News/Washington Post tracking poll results, cementing Trump's resurgence in the past week and marking the potentially critical role of turnout in the election's outcome.

The race stands at 46-45 percent, Clinton-Trump, in the latest results, so tight that :rightarrow: the draw by third-party candidates Gary Johnson and Jill Stein could matter." :leftarrow:

Think carefully about what you want to see happen.

I've thought more than most.

Trump, baby, Trump!
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Yes, but I was addressing the third-party favorers, that they should decide which of the two majors they least want to see elected, and how their third-party choice could cause that very thing to happen.

This is what I meant when I said we can't afford a third-party presence this time.
"How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
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George K
Oct 30 2016, 05:09 AM
Might be.

One of the things they didn't show on social media, was the enormous amount of searches being done on google right now, searching to see if one can change their early vote.

I think there's some buyer's remorse out there....
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Aqua Letifer
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Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 05:09 AM
Yes, but I was addressing the third-party favorers, that they should decide which of the two majors they least want to see elected, and how their third-party choice could cause that very thing to happen.

This is what I meant when I said we can't afford a third-party presence this time.
It's not up to you to tell others how to vote. That's what a vote means.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Riley
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Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 05:09 AM
Yes, but I was addressing the third-party favorers, that they should decide which of the two majors they least want to see elected, and how their third-party choice could cause that very thing to happen.

This is what I meant when I said we can't afford a third-party presence this time.
Aren't you planning on not voting? I think we can all agree that's much worse than voting third party.
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Renauda
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In the US voting third party is a viable way a registering a protest vote. More effective than spoiling your ballot because it is counted. Thinking otherwise is falling prey to the fallacy that your vote is wasted. That falsehood is precisely what enables the status quo of the two party system to sustain itself unchallenged.
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Riley
Oct 30 2016, 06:46 AM
Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 05:09 AM
Yes, but I was addressing the third-party favorers, that they should decide which of the two majors they least want to see elected, and how their third-party choice could cause that very thing to happen.

This is what I meant when I said we can't afford a third-party presence this time.
Aren't you planning on not voting? I think we can all agree that's much worse than voting third party.

That was an option I contemplated early on, yes. But I've since changed my mind.

We each must make up our own mind. It's just that this time, a vote for a third-party guy could have greater ramifications than as merely a protest vote, because the two majors are so close together. This, solely as a reminder and not as any kind of instruction as to how to vote. :doh:

"How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
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Riley
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Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 07:39 AM
Riley
Oct 30 2016, 06:46 AM
Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 05:09 AM
Yes, but I was addressing the third-party favorers, that they should decide which of the two majors they least want to see elected, and how their third-party choice could cause that very thing to happen.

This is what I meant when I said we can't afford a third-party presence this time.
Aren't you planning on not voting? I think we can all agree that's much worse than voting third party.

That was an option I contemplated early on, yes. But I've since changed my mind.

We each must make up our own mind. It's just that this time, a vote for a third-party guy could have greater ramifications than as merely a protest vote, because the two majors are so close together. This, solely as a reminder and not as any kind of instruction as to how to vote. :doh:

True, if you really hate one of the big 2, I understand a "lesser of 2 evils" vote. But if you hate them both equally, vote for who you really prefer for prez, even if they have no chance.
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True, but how likely is it that you'd hate them both equally?
"How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 30 2016, 06:26 AM
Catseye
Oct 30 2016, 05:09 AM
Yes, but I was addressing the third-party favorers, that they should decide which of the two majors they least want to see elected, and how their third-party choice could cause that very thing to happen.

This is what I meant when I said we can't afford a third-party presence this time.
It's not up to you to tell others how to vote. That's what a vote means.
True story.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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Catseye
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I see that I didn't phrase that quite the way I intended.

When I wrote "we can't afford a third-party presence at this time", that was me writing too fast, due to wanting to get outside in this beautiful weather. I meant to write, "depending on the outcome you want, you should consider the influence a third-party vote could have on the outcome, given how close the two majors are in the polls. That if it's big enough, it could kick the worst of the two, in your mind, into office.

"How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
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Aqua Letifer
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People who vote out of fear don't deserve to.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Horace
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 30 2016, 12:51 PM
People who vote out of fear don't deserve to.
Whatever fear anybody feels over this election, is low-grade. Except for the crazy nutzos among us. By which I mean Hitlary voters. I bet they're afraid. Terrified. Cold sweats.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Horace
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HOLY CARP!!!
Aqua Letifer
Oct 30 2016, 12:51 PM
People who vote out of fear don't deserve to.
I agree with Aqua that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'm glad someone finally said it.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Aqua Letifer
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ZOOOOOM!
Horace
Oct 30 2016, 02:16 PM
Aqua Letifer
Oct 30 2016, 12:51 PM
People who vote out of fear don't deserve to.
I agree with Aqua that women shouldn't be allowed to vote. I'm glad someone finally said it.
Ah yes, the ol' "hey asshole, how do you like my red sweater" ploy. Beneath you, man, beneath you.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Horace
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I get all trolly election time, this one more than every other so far. Normal, intelligent, adjusted people are using Hitler analogies with Trump, and somehow HRC is a devil too. But I don't actually believe you're against women's suffrage. They should have plenty of time between cooking dinner and vacuuming the floor, to pull some lever.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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George K
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Horace
Oct 30 2016, 03:09 PM
Normal, intelligent, adjusted people are using Hitler analogies with Trump, and somehow HRC is a devil too.
Well, there you go. That's all the difference in the world.

Hitler vs Satan.
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Rainman
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Aqua, how long have you hated women??

(( :tongue: ))
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Aqua Letifer
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Horace
Oct 30 2016, 03:09 PM
I get all trolly election time, this one more than every other so far. Normal, intelligent, adjusted people are using Hitler analogies with Trump, and somehow HRC is a devil too. But I don't actually believe you're against women's suffrage. They should have plenty of time between cooking dinner and vacuuming the floor, to pull some lever.
Right on.

Look I'm not offended or anything, I'm just surprised. The misogynist implication joke is just too easy. Why not go with gays who don't shorten their name or something? For reals.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Horace
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Not sure you could get more puerile than my sense of humor.

Bonus points for it being what scares people. Not you. This is a public message board after all.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Cheers
Horace
Oct 30 2016, 03:09 PM
Normal, intelligent, adjusted people are using Hitler analogies with Trump,
Not me, I've retired Hitler analogies altogether. Trump is my new limit case.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Horace
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HOLY CARP!!!
jon-nyc
Oct 30 2016, 04:20 PM
Horace
Oct 30 2016, 03:09 PM
Normal, intelligent, adjusted people are using Hitler analogies with Trump,
Not me, I've retired Hitler analogies altogether. Trump is my new limit case.
Sad for you, but you'll have nothing to say. Because he ain't gonna do anything.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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