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Pence is the winner!; Before the debate is even over!
Topic Started: Oct 4 2016, 06:20 PM (246 Views)
Aqua Letifer
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ZOOOOOM!
http://www.gq.com/story/vp-debate-posted-early

Two hours before the debate, the Republicans say the winner is—surprise—Mike Pence.

Americans might be waiting with bated breath to watch boring dad Tim Kaine rattle rhetorical sabers with perpetually squinting xenophobe Mike Pence in tonight's vice presidential debate, but good news! The speculation can end right now because, as the eagle-eyed April Siese discovered, the Republican Party's intrepid PR team already has this one figured out for us. These pages, which appeared earlier on the GOP's official site, have already been frantically pulled down, but behold, screenshots of the published-too-soon cries of victory!

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Who Won the Vice Presidential Debate Americans from all across the country tuned in to watch the one and only Vice Presidential debate. During the debate we helped fact check and monitor the conversation in real time @GOP. The consensus was clear after the dust settled, Mike Pence was the clear winner of the debate.
Mike Pence’s top moments from the debate:
Economy
Highlighting Hillary’s scandals
Mike Pence made the most of his opportunity to debate Hillary’s VP pick Tim Kaine. The other clear winner from tonight’s debate was Donald Trump. His running mate perfectly shared Trump’s vision to make America great again and that message is resonating with Americans all across the country.

I cite irreconcilable differences.
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George K
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Prescience ftw!
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justme
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HOLY CARP!!!
Why is Kaine wearing a red tie and Pence wearing a blue tie. Is that their strategy? Maybe the ties will sway votes?
"Men sway more towards hussies." G-D3
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Aqua Letifer
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How is this any different from what 90% of Americans do before they even watch these things?
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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George K
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 4 2016, 06:22 PM
How is this any different from what 90% of Americans do before they even watch these things?
It's not.

This is political theater of the first second order. Enjoy!
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Rainman
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Kaine's red tie certainly goes with his raging eyeballs.
:silly:
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Steve Miller
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Good debate.

Pence tried to defend his boss but had nothing to work with. Kaine
used his dead, lifeless carcass to mop the floor. I felt sorry for Pence - he was
outguuned on every level. Confused, unprepared, forced to
defend the indefensible.

YMMV, which it will.
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Mikhailoh
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
According to the Cleveland OH focus group, Pence won hands down.

I might mention that Cleveland is a very Dem area.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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Mikhailoh
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
Steve Miller
Oct 4 2016, 06:33 PM
Good debate.

Pence tried to defend his boss but had nothing to work with. Kaine
used his dead, lifeless carcass to mop the floor. I felt sorry for Pence - he was
outguuned on every level. Confused, unprepared, forced to
defend the indefensible.

YMMV, which it will.
I guess you see what you want to see.
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John D'Oh
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Too crap, didn't watch.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Red Rice
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Steve Miller
Oct 4 2016, 06:33 PM
Good debate.

Pence tried to defend his boss but had nothing to work with. Kaine
used his dead, lifeless carcass to mop the floor. I felt sorry for Pence - he was
outguuned on every level. Confused, unprepared, forced to
defend the indefensible.

YMMV, which it will.
Yeah, gotta disagree with you there. Pence did much better than that.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

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Steve Miller
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Red Rice
Oct 4 2016, 06:53 PM
Steve Miller
Oct 4 2016, 06:33 PM
Good debate.

Pence tried to defend his boss but had nothing to work with. Kaine
used his dead, lifeless carcass to mop the floor. I felt sorry for Pence - he was
outguuned on every level. Confused, unprepared, forced to
defend the indefensible.

YMMV, which it will.
Yeah, gotta disagree with you there. Pence did much better than that.
If you are speaking of decorum, I agree with you. Kaine was rude.

Go back and look at substance however; concrete policy proposals, ideas, plans for the future, and Kaine had reason to break in to Pence's wall of rhetoric.

There is no "there" there.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
Steve Miller
Oct 4 2016, 06:33 PM
Good debate.

Pence tried to defend his boss but had nothing to work with. Kaine
used his dead, lifeless carcass to mop the floor. I felt sorry for Pence - he was
outguuned on every level. Confused, unprepared, forced to
defend the indefensible.

YMMV, which it will.
Proof that Pence won the debate by a mile:

Steve is damn near apoplectic.......


hahahahahahahahahahaha
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Go back and look at substance however


There was no substance to anything Kaine had to say. The man is a lapdog.
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Steve Miller
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Larry
Oct 4 2016, 08:25 PM
Steve Miller
Oct 4 2016, 06:33 PM
Good debate.

Pence tried to defend his boss but had nothing to work with. Kaine
used his dead, lifeless carcass to mop the floor. I felt sorry for Pence - he was
outguuned on every level. Confused, unprepared, forced to
defend the indefensible.

YMMV, which it will.
Proof that Pence won the debate by a mile:

Steve is damn near apoplectic.......


hahahahahahahahahahaha
Not at all. This is the party that reveres Sarah Palin.

The rest is just gravy.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
But..... but...... Steve..... you just finished claiming that YOU are a republican....

BAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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Rainman
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Moderator: Mr. Kaine, how is the weather?
Kaine: Hillary Clinton has done more for the climate than anyone in history, she will keep the oceans rising at even a lesser rate, than president Obama. Under her administration, all people of color will enjoy the beauty of nature, she will work relentlessly to decrease impacts of pollution, remove dams and other insidious mechanisms that threaten our endangered species. She has a proven track record in the middle east for easing tensions among heated adversaries, and will provide refuge for those world citizens that are only concerned with relocation to a better life. Under a Clinton administration, there is no doubt that all citizens will enjoy the weather due to increased opportunities to access a fair health care system, and will additionally enjoy the benefits of taxing the wealthy to redistribute fairly the income garnered by the greedy, unscrupulous people such as Donald Trump. There is no doubt, that the future will be a growing positive to the beneficial changes we have seen for the past 8 years.

Moderator: Mr. Pence?
Pence: Hey, kind of a Beautiful day here in Virginia!!
(Interruption from Kaine: There is no question that Mr. Trump's positions are not beautiful, but hateful against those that seek a better life as only the Democrats can bestow, and yada,yada, yada...)

:tongue:
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jon-nyc
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Cheers
Jonah Goldberg's take.



tl;dr: Pence beat Kaine but hurt Trump. He couldn't defend the things Trump has said, so he repeatedly denied Trump said them. So the media will spend the week fact-checking Pence and that will become the story. Money quote: "In fact, if the story line becomes “Pence couldn’t defend Trump,” I fully expect Trump to publicly insult Pence in the next few days as punishment."

In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Kaine'a objective was simply to make Trump look bad, and Kaine's corresponding tactic was simply to keep hitting Trump. Best thing that Pence could do, and the he did that very well, was to not take the bate and make things worse.
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Copper
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Mr. Pence is trying to undo the imaginary Trump built by the Clinton media.

There is no way he is going to get away with that.
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