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I want a new drug...
Topic Started: Oct 4 2016, 03:30 AM (116 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Ok, they got one:

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_DEATH_PENALTY_OHIO?SITE=MYPSP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2016-10-03-18-06-19
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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George K
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Finally
"The state's former policy called for 10 milligrams of midazolam. The state now plans to use 500 milligrams"

That'll do it. A half a liter of versed?

:hair:
Edited by George K, Oct 4 2016, 03:33 AM.
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Mikhailoh
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
That should do it by itself.
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bachophile
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HOLY CARP!!!
Must be a typo
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George K
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Finally
Most I've ever given is about 10 mg, and that wasn't all at once.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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George K
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bachophile
Oct 4 2016, 03:55 AM
Must be a typo
http://www.livescience.com/51384-execution-drug-midazolam-effect.html
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Dr. Roswell Lee Evans, did not cite scholarly research to back up his statements. Instead, he relied "primarily on two sources: the Web site www.drugs.com, and a 'Material Safety Data Sheet' produced by a midazolam manufacturer," the dissent says.

In the decision made today, five justices on the court sided with Evans, agreeing that a 500-milligram dose of the drug would work. But the other four justices disagreed, writing in their dissent: "In reaching this conclusion, the Court sweeps aside substantial evidence showing that, while midazolam may be able to induce unconsciousness, it cannot be utilized to maintain unconsciousness in the face of agonizing stimuli."

Forcelli said that the effect of very high doses of midazolam is unknown, because those dosage levels have not been tested. Lower doses of the drug do not cause anesthesia, but because higher doses have not been tested, "there is a gap in the data," Forcelli said.

And this is flatly untrue:
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Some states previously used sodium thiopental, which is an anesthetic, to induce unconsciousness in executions. But pharmaceutical companies stopped selling the drug because they did not want it to be used for executions, causing the drug to become scarce.
They stopped manufacturing because it was a crappy drug and no one was buying it.
Edited by George K, Oct 4 2016, 03:59 AM.
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- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Riley
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HOLY CARP!!!
George K
Oct 4 2016, 03:33 AM
"The state's former policy called for 10 milligrams of midazolam. The state now plans to use 500 milligrams"

That'll do it. A half a liter of versed?

:hair:
500mg would be half a gram not half a litre. Learn the metric system you damn American. ;)
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George K
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Riley
Oct 4 2016, 08:55 AM
George K
Oct 4 2016, 03:33 AM
"The state's former policy called for 10 milligrams of midazolam. The state now plans to use 500 milligrams"

That'll do it. A half a liter of versed?

:hair:
500mg would be half a gram not half a litre. Learn the metric system you damn American. ;)
Like, learn how many milligrams are in a milliliter of Versed - a drug that I've been using since before you were born.

F'ing Canuck. :tiki:
Edited by George K, Oct 4 2016, 09:02 AM.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Riley
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HOLY CARP!!!
George K
Oct 4 2016, 09:01 AM
Riley
Oct 4 2016, 08:55 AM
George K
Oct 4 2016, 03:33 AM
"The state's former policy called for 10 milligrams of midazolam. The state now plans to use 500 milligrams"

That'll do it. A half a liter of versed?

:hair:
500mg would be half a gram not half a litre. Learn the metric system you damn American. ;)
Like, learn how many milligrams are in a milliliter of Versed - a drug that I've been using since before you were born.

F'ing Canuck. :tiki:
Is it always 1:1?

In my experience drugs taken in liquid form can be mixed at different ratios, even varying from pharmacy to pharmacy.

Either way, why would you list it as 500mg but say half a litre.
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Riley
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HOLY CARP!!!
In less than 10 seconds of googling I was able to find out that midazolam, like anything else can be mixed to different strengths (1mg/ml, 2mg/ml, 5mg/ml...)
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George K
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Finally
In 30 years of experience, I can tell you that, in the US, it's a milligram per milliliter. IOW, you want to give MORE than 500 ml? :lol2:

However, youre missing my point that that's a bucket of Versed. Here's a drug that's usually given in 1,2, or 3 mg doses. I draw it up in a 3 ml syringe.

Yeah, half a liter is a lot of vials.
A guide to GKSR: Click

"Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... "
- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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Mikhailoh
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
Riley, you really don't want to argue Versed with an anesthesiologist. Seriously.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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