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| Trump’s maternity leave plan is unconstitutional | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 18 2016, 04:47 AM (1,009 Views) | |
| Larry | Sep 18 2016, 12:22 PM Post #26 |
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Yeah, but if she had stayed home and made sammiches like she was supposed to do she would have caught a man and had some kids......
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| Catseye | Sep 18 2016, 12:23 PM Post #27 |
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Pisa-Carp
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I'm not going to bash heads with you over this, Larry, so knock it off. |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| Larry | Sep 18 2016, 12:26 PM Post #28 |
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Then go make me a sammich. |
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| Larry | Sep 18 2016, 12:29 PM Post #29 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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| Horace | Sep 18 2016, 01:04 PM Post #30 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It's ok. it's not my time. Everybody has time. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Renauda | Sep 18 2016, 01:21 PM Post #31 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Okay, so it wasn't a whoopee cushion. Figured you deserved the benefit of the doubt.
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| Riley | Sep 18 2016, 05:12 PM Post #32 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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But then when your maternity leave runs out, you go back to work, and now YOU are the taxpayer paying for the next round of people taking maternity leave. |
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| Copper | Sep 18 2016, 05:43 PM Post #33 |
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Shortstop
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So it works out as long as someone is getting paid not to work. This is a Marx Brothers routine. You might want to check your math. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| John D'Oh | Sep 18 2016, 07:22 PM Post #34 |
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The idea that somebody raising a child in their first year is somehow not pulling their weight is more than a liitle short sighted. |
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| Copper | Sep 18 2016, 07:29 PM Post #35 |
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The idea that a private company where they don't work should pay them is theft. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| John D'Oh | Sep 19 2016, 03:53 AM Post #36 |
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An idea can't be theft, it's just an idea. Theft is when you steal something from somebody else. The English language, for example. Yes, I'm being snarky. It's Monday morning and I have to be at f*cking work. |
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| Jolly | Sep 19 2016, 04:00 AM Post #37 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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How long has paid maternity leave been around? For anybody? |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Jolly | Sep 19 2016, 04:01 AM Post #38 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Don't look now, but he's +7 in the LA Times Poll... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Axtremus | Sep 19 2016, 04:02 AM Post #39 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Make the government pay for the benefit and you can get around the "private company" part of your objection.
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| Axtremus | Sep 19 2016, 04:03 AM Post #40 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I've noticed that the LA Times Poll has become Trump supporters' favorite off late.
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| Jolly | Sep 19 2016, 04:05 AM Post #41 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Doesn't matter, go look at the RCP average... |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Jolly | Sep 19 2016, 04:05 AM Post #42 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Sorry, not with my money. Thank you for playing, though. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| George K | Sep 19 2016, 04:14 AM Post #43 |
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FIFY |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Larry | Sep 19 2016, 04:20 AM Post #44 |
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A company does not hire people to provide them benefits. They hire people to work. Benefits are the carrots they dangle to get and keep good workers. WORKERS. A woman who has a baby and then takes 6 months or more off to raise the baby is not a worker. She has no right to ask for any more time off than it takes her to heal up and get back to work. Or, she can quit her job. At the most, after a couple of weeks off to heal up, she could ask for an unpaid leave of absence with a guarantee of a job at the end of a predetermined period of time. But the company should have no obligation to agree to such a thing. And - it's none of government's damned business. Edited by Larry, Sep 19 2016, 04:21 AM.
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| John D'Oh | Sep 19 2016, 04:27 AM Post #45 |
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I swear to God, some of you chaps would have been a lot happier living in Victorian times. |
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| Jolly | Sep 19 2016, 04:30 AM Post #46 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Actually, what Larry suggested is better than what FEMLA provides. |
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| Larry | Sep 19 2016, 04:40 AM Post #47 |
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If you took every dime you had and then borrowed even more until you didn't know if you'd ever pay it all back, started a company, and then started hiring people - would you want to hire a bunch of pregnant women and have them all demand 6 months paid leave with a job guarantee at the end? The alternative from a business perspective is to just not hire women at all. Or to pay them less, and not give them promotions to key positions where you had to depend on them being there. You can choose to see that as being from "Victorian times" is you wish, but that's just how it works. Business aren't started to provide a job. Businesses are started to provide a product or a service. That requires employees. Getting and keeping good employees is a balancing act that requires give and take from both the company and the employee. But past a point, the business has to make decisions on what's best for the company, not an employee, because that business has to concern itself not only with its own financial future, but the financial future of all the other employees. To call that "Victorian" is silly. |
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| John D'Oh | Sep 19 2016, 04:44 AM Post #48 |
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No, I don't think it is. The Victorians weren't evil, but they approached the workplace pretty much as you describe. Workers didn't have many rights, and they weren't protected by legislation, it was left to the market. It also led to some people getting very rich, and some people being horribly exploited. |
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| Larry | Sep 19 2016, 04:46 AM Post #49 |
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No one can be exploited when they have the right to quit the job and go find another one unless they choose to be exploited. |
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| Axtremus | Sep 19 2016, 05:19 AM Post #50 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Oh, I thought you have a problem with that sort of borrowing. |
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Okay, so it wasn't a whoopee cushion. Figured you deserved the benefit of the doubt.

4:46 PM Jul 10