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| WaPo Robert Samuelson - Build the Wall | |
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| George K | Sep 14 2016, 04:54 AM Post #1 |
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| Catseye | Sep 14 2016, 05:35 AM Post #2 |
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"Create a path to legality -- and ultimately to citizenship -- for the estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants in the country." Here's an amazing thought. What if they don't want to? What if jukin and jivin across the border every night and back again is the only way they can survive or support their families, but if they could they would remain in their homes? What about the alleged $24 billion that undoc immigrants send back to Mexico each year? Is Mexico so well off now that it can do without that money? And what becomes of the people who attempt to penetrate the wall? You know, create a false identity, glue on a moustache, and get caught? Are they arrested? Escorted back over? The wall would make the crossing more challenging, but other than that, how is that different from what happens now? And who pays to support all that, and how? Here's what I don't know, or even if it is known: How many illegals are there overall the whole US? Is it mainly a Southwest problem, or is it everywhere? If it's mostly in the lower western quadrant, why not give them a bigger voice? It's their problem, isn't it? Maybe they would find ways to solve the problem that the feds can't or won't consider? And speaking of which, maybe the feds have had enough fail time; maybe it's time for the states to take hold of it. Require most businesses to belong to E-Verify, the government system that allows employers to check on the immigrant status of potential workers. Hate this. |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| Copper | Sep 14 2016, 05:48 AM Post #3 |
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They all come to Mr. Trump eventually. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| John Galt | Sep 14 2016, 05:49 AM Post #4 |
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Another view of the impact of immigrants, both legal and illegal.
https://www.rt.com/usa/185188-immigration-statistics-california-us/ I wonder how much support the wall concept gets in California among those who hire the illegal immigrants. |
| Let us begin anew, remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness. | |
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| Copper | Sep 14 2016, 05:51 AM Post #5 |
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Lock 'em up. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Catseye | Sep 14 2016, 05:54 AM Post #6 |
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We could call it the "Amaginot Line". |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| John Galt | Sep 14 2016, 06:03 AM Post #7 |
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We already know there are extensive tunnels. And that some come in by sea. If there's money to be made moving drugs or people, someone will figure out a way to get them in. And I still think there will be opposition from those who take advantage of the low wages paid to the illegals. Just one example; I'm sure there are tons more in the agriculture industry: http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/138236/ky-immigration-proposal-worries-industry |
| Let us begin anew, remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness. | |
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| Steve Miller | Sep 14 2016, 06:24 AM Post #8 |
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If we're going to rely on E-Verify, they are going to have to make it work a lot better than it does now. |
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Wag more Bark less | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 14 2016, 06:52 AM Post #9 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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E-Verify works for that just about as well as HIPAA works for privacy. Which is to say not at all at great cost and administrative burden. |
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| John Galt | Sep 14 2016, 09:43 AM Post #10 |
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A more comprehensive analysis of the impact of immigration: http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216 |
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