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Calling George, Bach, etc.; Medical query
Topic Started: Aug 30 2016, 04:42 PM (1,354 Views)
Aqua Letifer
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Had another gallstone attack on Sunday. Absolutely my fault, I ate horribly the whole day before and I had a good long run with no issues whatsoever.

This morning, I have mild discomfort in my upper right abdomen and a very mild fever. It's very slight, and between that and the mild discomfort I can totally deal. But I don't know if I should. Can I be doing damage to myself by not going back to the doc ASAP? I have no jaundice, no bad pain at all, no dark pee or weird stools. Bloodwork conducted at the hospital came back normal, and the ultrasound came back saying, well, I had gallstones.

This is by far the worst possible time I could ever take time off work. Three major things going down this week that cannot be pushed back and are very important; it's my iob to kind of oversee each. (I just took some time off last week, too.) So if I'm out for awhile, I don't know where that puts me. I don't know what the repurcussions would be. (They'd laid people off for a lot less in the past.) But if I'm potentially causing permanent damage to myself by not going back in, then I'd much rather risk getting canned.

Trying to weigh the options but it seems like I know too little about both the medical and job situation to decide. Asking you guys about the med thing because the docs at the ER didn't care about context. I can ask my boss tomorrow where time off puts me.
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John Galt
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George and Bach are your best bet, but in the meantime...

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George K
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Bach knows more about this than I do. MUCH more.

As far as timing goes, however, if you do it right, you can get it done on a Friday and return to work on Monday. One of my partners did that. Young and healthy people can recover from a cholecystectomy in a matter of days. If you can work from home, all the better.

That said, putting off a gallbladder can be serious - very serious. If you develop a fever, etc., it can result in a hospitalization that's longer than a simple overnight. Jaundice, dark urine, fever are all signs of something more serious going on. Normal bloodwork does not mean you don't have gallbladder disease. It means that your gallbladder disease is not serious enough to cause systemic problems.
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Aqua Letifer
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Gotcha. What is "putting off"? Is a week feasible?
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George K
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Aqua Letifer
Aug 30 2016, 05:13 PM
Gotcha. What is "putting off"? Is a week feasible?
Yep. Probably. If you're basically asymptomatic, other than the occasional attack, it should be fine. The point is that the next attack could be serious. You never know which "next" attack that will be.
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Aqua Letifer
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Aug 30 2016, 05:16 PM
Aqua Letifer
Aug 30 2016, 05:13 PM
Gotcha. What is "putting off"? Is a week feasible?
Yep. Probably. If you're basically asymptomatic, other than the occasional attack, it should be fine. The point is that the next attack could be serious. You never know which "next" attack that will be.
Well so far it's all been triggered by poor food choices; I feel about 80 percent certain that if I watch myself, I can make it to Friday without an attack.

But what worries me is the mild fever. From what I've read that seems like very bad juju (and worse, I don't know why or what that even means). It's extremely slight, but it's not gone away for about 12 hours.

For work, I'm putting together a milk truck memo right now and—thanks LW—I'm drafting an e-mail that I won't send until right before the surgery that asks my boss straight up if I'll get fired if I have surgery done this week.

My plan right now is to show up to work tomorrow morning, hand over the milk truck memo, and then call the hospital up and get something scheduled; then I'll go from there.
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What did the docs in the ER recommend?
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bachophile
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No time for full answer now

Pain and fever is cholecystitis. Mild but inflamed

U need antibiotics. And u need to have that gall bladder out ASAP.

Not necessarily tomorrow. But certainly when inflammation is reduced and within a few weeks.
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Aqua Letifer
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Aug 30 2016, 07:19 PM
U need antibiotics. And u need to have that gall bladder out ASAP.

Not necessarily tomorrow. But certainly when inflammation is reduced and within a few weeks.
Thanks a lot for the quick response. My current plan is to make it to Friday, then use the longer weekend to get the surgery. Think that's fast enough, pending no attacks, or no?


Friday: ER docs said if I don't get better in 3 days I should come back, and if it gets worse again I need to come in ASAP.
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Aug 30 2016, 06:01 PM
For work, I'm putting together a milk truck memo right now and—thanks LW—I'm drafting an e-mail that I won't send until right before the surgery that asks my boss straight up if I'll get fired if I have surgery done this week.
My God. What a horrible choice to have to make.

Is this job worth dying for?

If they fire you are money ahead IMHO.
Edited by Steve Miller, Aug 30 2016, 09:05 PM.
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Isn't this the kind of thing that happens to people in their 40's and up? Kid, whatchu been eating your whole life??
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Aug 30 2016, 09:02 PM
My God. What a horrible choice to have to make.

Is this job worth dying for?

If they fire you are money ahead IMHO.
It might be way over-the-top reactionary on my part, but the thing is I don't know. I'm worried because I submitted a request for leave last week after I spoke with my boss about it, and my co-workers. I made it clear I was concerned about getting behind with things. Boss said no problem.

Yesterday afternoon we all get a group e-mail from my boss that's basically a status report on each of us; says I'm behind on things. (This week I'm doing my job and someone else's who's away on business so it's not like I'm actually slacking.)

So, I don't know what to make of that. They have in the past laid off people for less.
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It could be the boss' notion of 'lighting a fire under their asses' -- something to do whether the people deserve the giddyap or not.

Jerky thing to do, IMO.
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have a bit more time now

no question that u need the surgery eventually, the only question is timing.

during an acute attack, generally you first cool things down a bit with antibiotics, and plan for surgery when the gall bladder is not hot. the exception to that rule would be when the infection is so severe that u r septic, high fever, severe pain, that situation needs emergency surgery just like any acute abdominal infection, like appendicitis or diverticulitis.

although most gall bladder operations are not that emergent, they are done in a more sub acute or elective setting. the point is though that if you wait too long to operate you risk another acute attack. and these can be pretty nasty.

so the best bet is to see a surgeon as soon as you can, give him your history, and plan for an elective cholecystectomy in the not so distant future. its usually a day surgery or one night stay, with an expected recovery and back to work 7-10 days. you are young, and you will easily tolerate surgery and be back to your old self, without risk of further complications of gall stones. remember, cholecystitis is just the mild end of the spectrum, although in the elderly it can be quite dangerous.

but gall stones can also lead to pancreatitis (really bad) and cholangitis, (life threatening) so the sooner u get rid of the focus of the problem, the place where stones are formed, the gall bladder, the quicker that potential danger is removed and you can get on with your life with a much lessened health risk
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Aqua Letifer
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Thanks a ton, bach. Calling the surgeon tomorrow and scheduling it whenever's soonest after Friday.

I'd know if I had pancreatitis, right? It's not a mild thing?
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Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 11:08 AM
I'd know if I had pancreatitis, right? It's not a mild thing?
One of my former university associates had necrotizing pancreatitis. He had a history of it a few years back, but it recurred out of the blue one morning as he was driving to work. He couldn't make it out of the parking lot to the hospital.

He was dead in a week. Age 62.
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Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

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Aqua Letifer
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Aug 31 2016, 11:18 AM
Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 11:08 AM
I'd know if I had pancreatitis, right? It's not a mild thing?
One of my former university associates had necrotizing pancreatitis. He had a history of it a few years back, but it recurred out of the blue one morning as he was driving to work. He couldn't make it out of the parking lot to the hospital.

He was dead in a week. Age 62.
Fucking hell.

Called surgeon's office. Appointment tomorrow afternoon.
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Aug 31 2016, 11:18 AM
Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 11:08 AM
I'd know if I had pancreatitis, right? It's not a mild thing?
One of my former university associates had necrotizing pancreatitis. He had a history of it a few years back, but it recurred out of the blue one morning as he was driving to work. He couldn't make it out of the parking lot to the hospital.

He was dead in a week. Age 62.
Thanks a fvcking hell of a lot, George.
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I should add, however, that he died a horrible and painful death as well.

I'm going to his memorial on the 9th.

http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/7587679/1/?x=20#new
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Please accept my condolences.

Now I need to go find a happy hour.
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Aug 31 2016, 12:05 PM
I should add, however, that he died a horrible and painful death as well.

I'm going to his memorial on the 9th.

http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/7587679/1/?x=20#new



That George. His humor is so . . . winsome. :)
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Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 11:56 AM
George K
Aug 31 2016, 11:18 AM
Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 11:08 AM
I'd know if I had pancreatitis, right? It's not a mild thing?
One of my former university associates had necrotizing pancreatitis. He had a history of it a few years back, but it recurred out of the blue one morning as he was driving to work. He couldn't make it out of the parking lot to the hospital.

He was dead in a week. Age 62.
Fucking hell.

Called surgeon's office. Appointment tomorrow afternoon.
Look Aqua, you don't have to spend all of that money that a doctor and hospital will cost. I'm no doctor but I'll be happy to take our your gall bladder (or is that gaul blatter?) for a quick $500 no questions asked. I'll even bring the anesthesia (you want Jim Beam or Maker's Mark?)

I want cash. :)



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Aqua Letifer
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^_^ What's awesome is that I have decent insurance for a change. This will be a financial hit but not a jeopardizing one.
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Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 12:21 PM
^_^ What's awesome is that I have decent insurance for a change. This will be a financial hit but not a jeopardizing one.
Good luck to you. Seriously can you still be a hipster without a gall bladder?

From what I understand Andy Worhol tried and failed miserably.
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Aqua Letifer
Aug 31 2016, 11:08 AM
Thanks a ton, bach. Calling the surgeon tomorrow and scheduling it whenever's soonest after Friday.

I'd know if I had pancreatitis, right? It's not a mild thing?
My wife had drug induced pancreatitis. She looked at me with tears in her eyes and begged me to shoot her.
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