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Topic Started: Jul 18 2016, 03:47 AM (210 Views)
George K
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Finally
Artist loses 14 years of work when Google deletes his blog
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Artist Dennis Cooper made a horrifying discovery June 27: His 14-year-old blog—the sole home of his writing, research, photographs, and more—was gone, Art Forum reports. According to Fusion, Cooper's blog was hosted by Google-owned Blogger. In addition to his blog, Google also deactivated his gmail account, which held his contacts and gig offers, the Guardian reports. The only explanation Google gave Cooper, who considers his blog a "serious work of mine," was a stock message that he was in "violation of the terms of service agreement." “I can’t even get a response from them or anything," Cooper says. "I have no idea why they did it or what’s going on.” Google tells Fusion it's "aware of this matter" but wouldn't comment any further.

Cooper, the author of a number of acclaimed novels, isn't even sure if his work is still out there somewhere. He's considering suing Google to get the answer. “This will not be easy for me for the obvious reasons, but I’m not going to just give up 10 years of my and others’ work without doing everything possible," he tells Art Forum. The incident is raising concerns among the art community about the power Google and other corporations now have to control artistic voices. “I think this is definitely censorship. The problem is nobody knows what the specific issue is and certainly Dennis has posted images that one might find troubling,” Stuart Comer, curator at MoMA, tells the Guardian. All Cooper knows is that other artists need to learn from him and "back everything up." “Obviously I’m a living example of not to be blind like that and think that everything is hunky dory."

Um, you trusted your work to "The Internet" and you didn't have it anywhere else? Is that what happened?
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Mikhailoh
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Yes. It's called dumbass syndrome.
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Luke's Dad
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My bet is that they had data limits and he went over.
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Aqua Letifer
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“I think this is definitely censorship. The problem is nobody knows what the specific issue is and certainly Dennis has posted images that one might find troubling,”


This is much more important than this guy's boneheaded decision not to back up his work. YouTube does this crap, too, all. the. time. The problem is, people like this guy and others on YouTube aren't just posting pictures of their cats; their livelihood is tied into these services and they have absolutely no mechanism to deal with these kinds of issues.

For example, if enough people complain about your video on YouTube—and you can bet some douche who gets in a flame war with you will ask his followers to flag your posts, this is already common—before anyone at YouTube looks into the matter, they'll take the video down and you lose your ad revenue streams. Just like that.

Oh, bonus: if a guy claims you stole his material—just claims it—they'll start giving him the revenue until the issue is looked into. If it turns out the claim was bogus, that guy still gets to keep the money he took from you.

This is a big damn problem.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Piano*Dad
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Mikhailoh
Jul 18 2016, 03:58 AM
Yes. It's called dumbass syndrome.
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Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Aqua Letifer
Jul 18 2016, 06:02 AM
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“I think this is definitely censorship. The problem is nobody knows what the specific issue is and certainly Dennis has posted images that one might find troubling,”


This is much more important than this guy's boneheaded decision not to back up his work. YouTube does this crap, too, all. the. time. The problem is, people like this guy and others on YouTube aren't just posting pictures of their cats; their livelihood is tied into these services and they have absolutely no mechanism to deal with these kinds of issues.

For example, if enough people complain about your video on YouTube—and you can bet some douche who gets in a flame war with you will ask his followers to flag your posts, this is already common—before anyone at YouTube looks into the matter, they'll take the video down and you lose your ad revenue streams. Just like that.

Oh, bonus: if a guy claims you stole his material—just claims it—they'll start giving him the revenue until the issue is looked into. If it turns out the claim was bogus, that guy still gets to keep the money he took from you.

This is a big damn problem.
Big Internet/media companies increasingly have more and more in common with the monopolies of old. Need to update anti-trust laws to deal with the monopolies.

Harder to claim damage, though, as most people use these Internet/media companies' platforms and services for "free."
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Aqua Letifer
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Axtremus
Jul 18 2016, 11:20 AM
Big Internet/media companies increasingly have more and more in common with the monopolies of old. Need to update anti-trust laws to deal with the monopolies.

Harder to claim damage, though, as most people use these Internet/media companies' platforms and services for "free."
Nah, it's incredibly easy to claim damages. A whole lot of people make their living exclusively through YouTube and other services, and their entire livelihoods have been wrecked from algorithms making the wrong decision with their content.

What needs to be fixed is the EULA.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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