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Jon
Topic Started: Jul 16 2016, 03:08 AM (3,264 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
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Jul 16 2016, 05:05 AM
George K
Jul 16 2016, 03:08 AM
Send good wishes, prayers, whatever, ...
+1

Not only to jon and his loved ones, but also to the donor's loved ones, ... for jon to receive what he needs, some one else had to be in the position of no longer having any use of it.
That may be the most caring, sensitive thing you've ever said.

There's hope for you, yet. :lol2:
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HOLY CARP!!!
I feel incredible love in this thread ;)
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
It's a trap, Jolly, don't go in! :lol:
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ZOOOOOM!
I think we should all remember to look after his sister in these tumultuous times.


(Seriously this is great news. Hoping for the best possible outcome because jon is awesome.)
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Red Rice
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Wow. Incredible news.

Best of luck to Jon and his family.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

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Hoping the very best for you, Jon!
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George, Bachophile - have you ever participated in a lung transplant? I understand that it is a quite sophisticated procedure. In all of Germany, there are only two hospitals that perform lung transplants.
Edited by Klaus, Jul 16 2016, 06:34 AM.
Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman
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Klaus, here's the thread from last fall, when it seemed there might be a set of lungs available but didn't end up working out. Jon explained some of the details.

http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/7537715/1/
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Jul 16 2016, 06:06 AM
Klaus, here's the thread from last fall, when it seemed there might be a set of lungs available but didn't end up working out. Jon explained some of the details.

http://s10.zetaboards.com/The_New_Coffee_Room/topic/7537715/1/
Thanks, JG. I recommend a re-read for everyone. Some of TNCR's best bits in there.
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Klaus
Jul 16 2016, 06:01 AM
Does anyone know whether it will be a single or double lung transplant? I assume double transplant makes more sense in his situation.

George, Bachophile - have you ever participated in a lung transplant? I understand that it is a quite sophisticated procedure. In all of Germany, there are only two hospitals that perform lung transplants.
no i have no experience.

except for having a good friend who is a thoracic surgeon, i really dont have any personal experience, other than knowing, its quite an ordeal.





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Sending good thoughts (and mojo) to Jon and his family.
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Written a post four times and erased it four times... Prayers are with Jon and his family.
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So happy to hear this. It's been a long wait for him and his family, and yes, prayers for him, his family, and the donor's family. From the donor's family's perspective, they can find at least some relief from their anguish to know another person and family will benefit. Having been part of a donor family, I can say this is a very good thing during their grief.
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Happy to hear that you are getting the treatment you need. Hopes and prayers for a successful procedure.
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My thoughts and prayers that everything goes perfectly, Jon.
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Klaus
Jul 16 2016, 06:01 AM
George, Bachophile - have you ever participated in a lung transplant? I understand that it is a quite sophisticated procedure. In all of Germany, there are only two hospitals that perform lung transplants.
When lung transplants became a thing, in the mid 80s, our place started a program. I was a member of the heart surgery team, so I knew all the surgeons well. However, only one of the five of us actually gave anesthesia for the procedures (he had attended some courses, etc).

It is a terribly complicated procedure (unlike a kidney transplant, which has become almost trivial, or a heart transplant which is difficult, but not complicated). There are multiple things to hook up to each other, and the fit has to be right. God help you if the suture line is not perfect and things start to leak - either air or blood. The other issue is that many of the patients who need a lung transplant have coexisting heart disease (heart failure). This can complicate recovery in a major way. Jon's been going to the hospital every few months to check on the status of his heart, and my understanding is that this is not an issue for him. I don't know current protocol, but they may put him on a heart lung machine. However, if his heart is strong enough, and one lung is good enough, they may work with just one side, and then switch over and do the other. Regardless, I'm sure that they'll be prepared to put him on bypass if things go south.

The recovery, I'm sure will be prolonged. However, he is young, with no other diseases complicating the issue, so with luck, he'll do ok. He will probably spend a couple of days on a ventilator. The amount of plumbing that will be inserted is epic. He and his family will know that he's getting better as the number of tubes starts to decline. Be sore as hell for a long time, but that goes away.

You can read more about Duke's program here.

And you can read more about how the procedure is done here (Johns Hopkins link).

For those that want medical details, here is a good summary.
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I didn't know all this was going on. God bless Jon... with success and a speedy recovery! He's so wonderful
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Jul 16 2016, 10:00 AM
I didn't know all this was going on. God bless Jon... with success and a speedy recovery! He's so wonderful
Yup that's why he moved to... South Carolina? Somewhere down south, anyway.
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Jul 16 2016, 10:07 AM
justme
Jul 16 2016, 10:00 AM
I didn't know all this was going on. God bless Jon... with success and a speedy recovery! He's so wonderful
Yup that's why he moved to... South Carolina? Somewhere down south, anyway.
North. Close to Durham.
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Jul 16 2016, 10:23 AM
Riley
Jul 16 2016, 10:07 AM
justme
Jul 16 2016, 10:00 AM
I didn't know all this was going on. God bless Jon... with success and a speedy recovery! He's so wonderful
Yup that's why he moved to... South Carolina? Somewhere down south, anyway.
North. Close to Durham.
Bruce Springsteen tried to convince him to boycott all medical care provided within NC as protest against their trans-gender bathroom laws. But jon decided to stay, because, frankly, he just hates trans-gender people.
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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Jul 16 2016, 10:26 AM
Bruce Springsteen tried to convince him to boycott all medical care provided within NC as protest against their trans-gender bathroom laws. But jon decided to stay, because, frankly, he just hates trans-gender people Bruce Springsteen.
FIFY
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Jul 16 2016, 10:42 AM
Horace
Jul 16 2016, 10:26 AM
Bruce Springsteen tried to convince him to boycott all medical care provided within NC as protest against their trans-gender bathroom laws. But jon decided to stay, because, frankly, he just hates trans-gender people Bruce Springsteen.
FIFY
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Jul 16 2016, 10:42 AM
Horace
Jul 16 2016, 10:26 AM
Bruce Springsteen tried to convince him to boycott all medical care provided within NC as protest against their trans-gender bathroom laws. But jon decided to stay, because, frankly, he just hates trans-gender people Bruce Springsteen.
FIFY
Yes, that is funnier. :)
As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good?
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It's strange.
Why am I worried and concerned, for a guy I've never met other than on an online forum??

Been thinking about Jon constantly today, wondering how everything went, hoping to hear positive news soon.
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Jul 16 2016, 10:58 AM
It's strange.
Why am I worried and concerned, for a guy I've never met other than on an online forum??

Been thinking about Jon constantly today, wondering how everything went, hoping to hear positive news soon.

Me too, Rainman. Just now I looked at the clock; it's 3PM, and I'm wondering if he's out yet.

As Brenda said about me one time -- a great compliment that I cherish -- "She's ours", with a smiley. Jon is ours. We know him in an onlinely way.

"How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex
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