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| Tweet Topic Started: Jul 11 2016, 03:01 PM (489 Views) | |
| Mikhailoh | Jul 11 2016, 03:01 PM Post #1 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Ruth Bader Ginburg bashes Trump This is bad, bad, bad. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| George K | Jul 11 2016, 03:07 PM Post #2 |
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Here's the part of the interview the WaPo didn't report: where she said that "things would be worse had (her "friend") Scalia lived:
IOW, things would be worse had my friend not died. Wanna go to New Zealand, "Justice" Ginsburg? Let me buy your ticket. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Jul 11 2016, 03:08 PM Post #3 |
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Oh, wait! You can't do that. You're too old, unless you choose to be |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| TomK | Jul 11 2016, 03:08 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I like my friends dead, too. |
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| Mikhailoh | Jul 11 2016, 03:09 PM Post #5 |
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Yep. At this point I have to question her judgement, and hence her fitness to serve. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Catseye | Jul 11 2016, 03:15 PM Post #6 |
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Pisa-Carp
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\ Has the woman no sense? |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| George K | Jul 11 2016, 03:16 PM Post #7 |
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FIFY |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Jul 11 2016, 03:20 PM Post #8 |
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Shortstop
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The post went over the edge a long time ago. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Rainman | Jul 11 2016, 03:27 PM Post #9 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I wonder if there has ever been a time when a Supreme Court Justice was clearly nuts? And if so, is there any way to remove someone clearly not fit, but refuses to step down. |
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| George K | Jul 11 2016, 03:31 PM Post #10 |
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Imagine, just for a second, if Justice Alito had said that his spouse wanted to move to, say Austria (where they speak Austrian) if the presidential candidate she preferred lost. If he said, "I just can't imagine what this country would be, with Hillary Clinton as our president. I can't begin to thing about that." Rachel Maddow would have (another) on-air orgasm. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Catseye | Jul 11 2016, 03:31 PM Post #11 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Good question! From here and there: A Supreme Court Justice may be impeached by the House of Representatives and removed from office if convicted in a Senate trial, but only for the same types of offenses that would trigger impeachment proceedings for any other government official under Articles I and II of the Constitution. Only one Supreme Court Justice, Samuel Chase (one of the signatories to the Declaration of Independence), has ever been impeached. The House of Representatives accused Chase of letting his Federalist political leanings affect his rulings, and served him with eight articles of impeachment in late 1804. And elsewhere: Impeached by the U.S. House of Representatives on March 2, 1803, on charges of mental instability and intoxication on the bench; Convicted by the U.S. Senate and removed from office on March 12, 1804. Samuel Chase, Associate Justice, Supreme Court of the United States. |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| George K | Jul 11 2016, 03:33 PM Post #12 |
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"High crimes and misdemeanors?" She's committed neither. She's just lost all credibility of objectivity. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Jul 11 2016, 03:34 PM Post #13 |
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Cheers
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They can be impeached. It would take a lot more than a political comment though. |
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| Catseye | Jul 11 2016, 04:30 PM Post #14 |
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Pisa-Carp
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AFAIK, the Chief Justice can issue a letter of reprimand or some other sanction (?) to a SCOTUS Justice, but Congress may not do anything other than impeachment. You'd have to confirm that, though. |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| Axtremus | Jul 11 2016, 04:39 PM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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A brain fart made more severe by her position on the Supreme Court. |
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| Red Rice | Jul 12 2016, 05:19 AM Post #16 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| George K | Jul 12 2016, 05:21 AM Post #17 |
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And her advanced age. Someone described her as that "crazy old aunt that visits at Christmas" who says whatever pops into her head. Loss of filtration. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John Galt | Jul 12 2016, 05:28 AM Post #18 |
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Fulla-Carp
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Maybe she and Trump are related. Can you imagine a family gathering with the two of them there? Seriously though, I think her thoughts should have been kept to herself. Not appropriate for a SC justice. |
| Let us begin anew, remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness. | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Jul 12 2016, 06:05 AM Post #19 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Another way to think about it: (Not that I think this is the truth—none of us have any way of knowing—but I think people actually do this so I figured I'd bring it up.) “Think what would have happened had Justice Scalia remained with us,” she said. Instead of a single sentence announcing the tie, she suggested, a five-justice majority would have issued a precedent-setting decision dealing a lasting setback to Mr. Obama and the immigrants he had tried to protect. I think if you're familiar enough with someone, even a professional colleague, you can say something like this out of familiarity, not callousness. (Sounds like very similar talk that I've heard from family members: "Well if Ed had lived we never would have moved out of Jersey.") I mean, they worked together a lot, did they not? Maybe that's where this is coming from. |
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| jon-nyc | Jul 12 2016, 12:06 PM Post #20 |
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Cheers
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Heh. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volokh-conspiracy/wp/2016/07/12/justice-ginsburg-takes-selfless-actions-to-prevent-election-litigation-deadlock/ |
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| George K | Jul 12 2016, 12:49 PM Post #21 |
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Taranto in today's WSJ: http://www.wsj.com/articles/travesty-of-a-justice-1468348145 Supreme Court justices have gotten involved in partisan politics before. Charles Evans Hughes even ran for president. But he resigned from the court before accepting the 1916 Republican presidential nomination. (He returned to the court in 1930, when President Hoover appointed him to succeed Chief Justice William Howard Taft, himself a former president.) Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have resigned before giving her latest interview, to the New York Times’s Adam Liptak. “Unless they have a book to sell, Supreme Court justices rarely give interviews,” Liptak boasts. “Even then, they diligently avoid political topics.” Ginsburg, he gently observes, “takes a different approach”:
“She’d feel right at home there,” quips the New York Sun’s Seth Lipsky. “It turns out that New Zealand doesn’t even have a constitution.” Instead it has a series of statutes called the Constitution Act of 1986. Also New Zealanders drive on the left. While we’re on the subject, Statistics New Zealand, a government agency, has “busted” the “myth” that the country has 20 sheep for every human inhabitant, a factoid that “adds weight to myriad sheep jokes,” as the Stats NZ website complains. In reality, “the sheep-to-person ratio has fallen and contrary to popular belief there are actually about six sheep per person, not 20.” The site is silent as to how Ginsburg’s immigration would affect the ratio. Actually, her choice of country is the best thing about Ginsburg’s latest emanations. At least she departed from the tired trope of celebrities’ threatening emptily to move to Canada if a Republican is elected president. But a Supreme Court justice should not be expressing an opinion about an election, unless—as in the case of Bush v. Gore (2000), it becomes necessary for the court to resolve a legal dispute arising from it. And Ginsburg’s comments about Trump, which were somewhat vague if you read them closely, were less objectionable than many of the other things she said in the same interview. She also damned the Senate for declining to take up the high-court nomination of Judge Merrick Garland: “ ‘That’s their job,’ she said. ‘There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the president stops being president in his last year.’ ” That’s literally true, but there’s also nothing in the Constitution that says the Senate stops being the Senate under any circumstances. Ginsburg is making a one-sided political argument and framing it as a constitutional mandate. Which, come to think of it, isn’t that different from her approach to jurisprudence. National Review’s Ed Whelan offers a backhanded compliment: “Let’s give her credit . . . for exposing, once again, how nakedly political she is.” We should note that by contrast, we were totally sincere in crediting her for going with New Zealand rather than Canada. It gets worse still. Liptak asked Ginsburg if there are “cases she would like to see the court overturn before she leaves it.” Her answer: “I’d love to see Citizens United overturned.” In that 2010 First Amendment case, the Federal Election Commission unsuccessfully claimed it had the authority to criminalize the distribution of a film critical of Hillary Clinton, whom Ginsburg has now implicitly endorsed for the presidency. She also told Liptak that District of Columbia v. Heller (2008), which established that the Second Amendment’s guarantee of the right to keep and bear arms guarantees the right to keep and bear arms, was “a very bad decision,” adding (in Liptak’s words) “that a chance to reconsider it could arise whenever the court considers a challenge to a gun control law.” Lipsky reports that “the Times . . . seemed to want to protect Ginsburg from the fallout from this error of judgment, deleting it from the article until sharp-eyed readers called out the paper and the lines were restored.” There’s no indication that Liptak asked Ginsburg if she also has designs on the Third Amendment. But if you wake up one morning and find a strange soldier on your couch, don’t say we didn’t warn you. And that’s not all, folks. Ginsburg went on to reveal confidential information about the court’s deliberations during the term just ended. She disclosed how the late Justice Antonin Scalia voted in two cases on which the court deadlocked, and she asserted that Justice Elena Kagan would have joined the 4-3 majority to uphold racial discrimination in Fisher v. University of Texas , from which Kagan recused herself. “If Justice Kagan had been there, it would have been 5 to 3,” Ginsburg asserted. So, to sum up: Ginsburg, in an on-the-record interview, took political positions on the presidential election and a Senate confirmation, indicated that she intends in future cases to vote to curtail constitutional rights, and violated the secrecy of the Supreme Court conference room. Trump responded to Ginsburg in a phone interview with Liptak’s colleague Maggie Haberman:
As far as we know, Hillary Clinton hasn’t been asked to respond to Ginsburg’s remarks. Perhaps she will be equally critical, but for now Trump looks like the candidate for voters who are concerned about restoring norms of propriety to the government. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Jul 12 2016, 02:48 PM Post #22 |
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Glenn Reynolds comments:
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Jul 14 2016, 03:09 PM Post #23 |
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RBG "apologizes:"Just to put it in context, here's the Code of Conduct for United States Judges: Source: http://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/code-conduct-united-states-judges#f Of course, the lawyerly comment would be that the Canon says "should not" and not "shall not." So, I guess she's fine. Edited by George K, Jul 14 2016, 03:10 PM.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Jolly | Jul 14 2016, 03:27 PM Post #24 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Jul 15 2016, 09:09 AM Post #25 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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How many times do we have to go through this? "Donald Trump would be a good president because I don't like today's politicians" isn't even poor reasoning, it's no reasoning. Criticism of people who are not Donald Trump is not evidence that Donald Trump would be a good President. It's not an achievement when people who are not you do poorly at their job. What's unacceptable about this particular election is just how fucking stupid the arguments are. They're beneath us. Absolutely they are. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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