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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 16 2016, 03:27 PM (505 Views) | |
| George K | Jun 16 2016, 03:27 PM Post #1 |
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Did Disney do enough to warn its guest about alligators?
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Jun 16 2016, 03:42 PM Post #2 |
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Shortstop
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One of the first thoughts you might have is that this will cost Disney a bundle. I saw one story today that said that Disney might not settle for the above reason. I guess that means this is part of the accepted risk when you go to Florida. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jun 16 2016, 04:04 PM Post #3 |
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Unfortunately for Disney, several employees have been warning them about putting up a fence on that particular lake and beach as Gators were getting more aggressive. It turns out that as part of the Floridian, they have built Bungalows over the water, and employees have repeatedly seen guests feeding the Gators despite warnings and requests. The feeding creates three problems, it causes more gators to come to that area, it eliminates the Gators fear of humans, and it teaches them to associate people with food. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jun 16 2016, 04:09 PM Post #4 |
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https://www.yahoo.com/news/gator-attack-disney-knew-problems-staffer-asked-fence-035825581.html |
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| George K | Jun 16 2016, 04:20 PM Post #5 |
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That's gonna leave a mark... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Jun 16 2016, 04:20 PM Post #6 |
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That's pretty bad. I have stayed in that hotel and whenever we are in the area we have made a point of having at least one meal there. I've probably made a couple dozen visits there over the years. I don't think I have ever heard any mention of an alligator. Maybe Disney has slipped but that is the kind of thing where they always seemed to be up front and ahead of it. Having to play catch-up here is really bad. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| jon-nyc | Jun 16 2016, 05:24 PM Post #7 |
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This isn't even close. The custodian of the property has been in the papers describing how he's been warning management about the gator problem. And the signs? A joke. 'No Swimming' doesn't mean 'WARNING: ALLIGATORS. KEEP CHILDREN AWAY'. It doesn't even mean 'no wading up to your shins'. They built the lagoon. They built a beach. They created a waterside attraction and marketed it to the world. Not just floridians that know there are gators everywhere. And this is Disney, ferchrissakes. Every inch of their resort is curated and designed. And this isn't the first time. Disney had a gator attack on a boy in 1986. They settled then. They are toast. They will be lucky if they keep the settlement below 8 figures. |
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| George K | Jun 16 2016, 05:38 PM Post #8 |
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http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/man-attacked-alligator-1986-disney-tragedy-not-article-1.2676459 |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| TomK | Jun 16 2016, 06:09 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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In some of the lakes in Florida--especially the ones near homes the homeowners association pays gator trappers to remove anything larger than a foot. It's and ongoing procedure but it keeps the risk to a minimum. I wonder why Disney doesn't do something similar.
Edited by TomK, Jun 16 2016, 06:34 PM.
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| Copper | Jun 16 2016, 06:30 PM Post #10 |
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Maybe Disney has cut back on maintenance in general. This will cost a lot more than the settlement with the family. Maybe they should just pave over the lakes and paint them blue. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| George K | Jun 16 2016, 06:38 PM Post #11 |
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Works for me... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Renauda | Jun 16 2016, 07:28 PM Post #12 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Signage cautioning people that alligators may be present would have been a damn site cheaper than any of the above. |
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| Luke's Dad | Jun 16 2016, 09:04 PM Post #13 |
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2.2 Billion in annual profits for the Theme Parks alone. They can afford it. |
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| Rainman | Jun 16 2016, 10:22 PM Post #14 |
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I'd suggest Disney stay within their theme park parameters. Post their typical sign everyone is familiar with at their theme parks, perhaps adding some modification: NOTICE: Anyone under 48 inches...COULD BE EATEN BY AN ALLIGATOR!!! (my callous comment above as a gallow-humor joke...but to be serious it's just horrible what happened) (and, in my view, Disney is responsible for this tragedy) (not clear?, let me restate: f**k Disney for not preventing this) |
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| jon-nyc | Jun 17 2016, 02:58 AM Post #15 |
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Wikipedia notes that the original name of the place was Grand Floridian Beach Resort. The beach and lagoon were not just incidental to the place, the beach attraction was central to the concept. The place opened in 1988. Note that the other boy was attacked by the gator on their property in 1986. so right about the time they settled with the other family for inadequate warning about alligators, they opened a resort centered on the concept of a beach on a man-made lake with no warning signs.
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| John D'Oh | Jun 17 2016, 04:31 AM Post #16 |
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This sounds a lot like criminal negligence. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jul 20 2016, 07:12 AM Post #17 |
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No lawsuit. I wonder how much Disney's contribution to the Lane Foundation was? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/07/20/broken-parents-wont-sue-disney-over-the-alligator-attack-that-left-their-toddler-dead/?utm_term=.a6b987ff91e9 |
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| John D'Oh | Jul 20 2016, 08:05 AM Post #18 |
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I'm not sure I'd have the energy to sue in their situation. The money's not really going to help, and having to go through a long lawsuit would be incredibly difficult. |
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