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"Who the hell is Gary Johnson?"
Topic Started: Jun 10 2016, 04:42 AM (1,245 Views)
Mikhailoh
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'Slime me, Melania, slime me!'
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Mikhailoh
Jun 10 2016, 02:39 PM
'Slime me, Melania, slime me!'
She's taken.
Sit down.
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Catseye
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But vote for Trump and you just gotta take a shower. You are going to have his slime all over you.


Better than hers.
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Jun 10 2016, 02:37 PM
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Jun 10 2016, 12:48 PM
Mikhailoh
Jun 10 2016, 10:58 AM
I'm tired of hearing that a vote for someone other than the main parties is wasted. It sends a message. If enough people send that message it will be heard.

Isn't this a great country?
I have cast several votes for non-main party candidates, none were wasted.
None may be wasted.

But vote for Trump and you just gotta take a shower. You are going to have his slime all over you.


He is occasionally impolite.

So what?
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Jun 10 2016, 07:18 AM
I'm in too! :lol:
Me too, probably. I'm still making up my mind (probably will still be in the very voting booth).

I just wish Johnson didn't look so . . . politically atypical, for want of a better description. If we didn't know it before, we have sure learned in this cycle that the average voter doesn't think. If Johnson requires, as George says, that you go "hm-m-m", he's already dead.
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Jolly
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Ross Perot.

Bill Clinton was elected without the majority of the vote. Maybe he won't be the last Clinton elected that way. Enjoy.
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Jolly
Jun 11 2016, 05:54 AM
Ross Perot.

Bill Clinton was elected without the majority of the vote. Maybe he won't be the last Clinton elected that way. Enjoy.
Jolly, I don't think we can keep running scared from third party voting. If this Trump mess should teach us anything, it is that the two majors are not infallible.
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I think a third party would be a great idea. I'm not convinced this is it.
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No, you're right about that. The LP has had many years to make its dent and it just isn't doing it. Nor do I think we need to think in terms of one third party. If the times they are a-changin' let's change them for good and all, and float some new ways of thinking.

We might as well, because we won't survive in our present configuration for much longer.
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Jolly
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I've lived through Wallace and Perot. Johnson is not even in the same popularity league as those guys.

The Dems have the Gibmedat vote locked up, and that's about 47% of the electorate. Could anybody please show me a plausible scenario where an election goes to the House? And even if it does, if I read the 12th Amendment correctly, an election decided by the House means President Trump.
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Jolly
Jun 11 2016, 06:35 AM
if I read the 12th Amendment correctly, an election decided by the House means President Trump.
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from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President.
Yup. They have to choose from the top three recipients of electoral votes.
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I would not bet on President Trump if Johnson was an option.
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I find the libertarians to be way too weak in terms of defense and drug policy. You want to legalize weed? Okay, I'm open to it. You want to legalize heroine? You lost me.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Mikhailoh
Jun 11 2016, 06:41 AM
I would not bet on President Trump if Johnson was an option.
Do you really think the House, with one vote per state, would vote for Johnson over Trump?
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Ehhh, I'm still probably going for Johnson.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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Mikhailoh
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Jun 11 2016, 07:01 AM
Mikhailoh
Jun 11 2016, 06:41 AM
I would not bet on President Trump if Johnson was an option.
Do you really think the House, with one vote per state, would vote for Johnson over Trump?
I think that is very possible. Think about how Trump will be acting in that situation, and the weariness his campaign is sure to bring. I thought by now he'd be tacking in a more presidential direction, but he most obviously is not.
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Mikhailoh
Jun 11 2016, 07:09 AM
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Jun 11 2016, 07:01 AM
Mikhailoh
Jun 11 2016, 06:41 AM
I would not bet on President Trump if Johnson was an option.
Do you really think the House, with one vote per state, would vote for Johnson over Trump?
I think that is very possible. Think about how Trump will be acting in that situation, and the weariness his campaign is sure to bring. I thought by now he'd be tacking in a more presidential direction, but he most obviously is not.
No, I don't see Johnson beating Trump. If he had more time . . . but maybe not even then. And by the way, where was he all this time? Waiting for Trump to tank, like any reasonable person would, probably. But he should have read the writing on the wall a lot sooner.

As for weariness with Trump, that dog won't fight either. Would've happened by now. I too keep waiting for him to become more presidential, but I think his impulsiveness outstrips his intentions.

It's obvious he can't control his big stupid mouth.

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Jun 11 2016, 07:34 AM
Mikhailoh
Jun 11 2016, 07:09 AM
George K
Jun 11 2016, 07:01 AM
Mikhailoh
Jun 11 2016, 06:41 AM
I would not bet on President Trump if Johnson was an option.
Do you really think the House, with one vote per state, would vote for Johnson over Trump?
I think that is very possible. Think about how Trump will be acting in that situation, and the weariness his campaign is sure to bring. I thought by now he'd be tacking in a more presidential direction, but he most obviously is not.
No, I don't see Johnson beating Trump. If he had more time . . . but maybe not even then. And by the way, where was he all this time? Waiting for Trump to tank, like any reasonable person would, probably. But he should have read the writing on the wall a lot sooner.

As for weariness with Trump, that dog won't fight either. Would've happened by now. I too keep waiting for him to become more presidential, but I think his impulsiveness outstrips his intentions.

It's obvious he can't control his big stupid mouth.

Johnson's where he's always been. As a third party that traditionally only gets maybe 2% of the vote if they are lucky, then they don't draw media attention. That's not his fault.

As for Johnson beating Trump, well we didn't see Trump beating everybody else either. And Hilary is just as bad on the other side.

A fiscal conservative/social liberal could have just enough compromise appeal for all of those people on both sides that are sick over their candidate.
The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.
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I don't think voting for a 3rd party is a waste if you can't stand the other two. I couldn't bring myself to vote Tory or Labour back when I had suffrage rather than just sufferage,
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And this is why Johnson can't win: http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/gary-johnson-is-here-to-tell-you-youre-a-libertarian/

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Edited by Luke's Dad, Jun 11 2016, 08:28 AM.
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He's polling at 10%, needs to be at 15% to get invited to the debates. http://fivethirtyeight.com/features/pay-attention-to-libertarian-gary-johnson-hes-pulling-10-vs-trump-and-clinton/
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HOLY CARP!!!
Gary Johnson: 'Nativism is not an American value'
http://politi.co/28T60Yg

Johnson on immigration: "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine how many workers we allow into the country."
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ZOOOOOM!
Axtremus
Jun 23 2016, 04:11 PM
Gary Johnson: 'Nativism is not an American value'
http://politi.co/28T60Yg

Johnson on immigration: "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine how many workers we allow into the country."
You can start any sentence with "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine and depending on how you finish it, you can generate a resounding "hell yeah" from any typical Republican, Democrat or Libertarian.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Aqua Letifer
Jun 23 2016, 04:18 PM
Axtremus
Jun 23 2016, 04:11 PM
Gary Johnson: 'Nativism is not an American value'
http://politi.co/28T60Yg

Johnson on immigration: "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine how many workers we allow into the country."
You can start any sentence with "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine and depending on how you finish it, you can generate a resounding "hell yeah" from any typical Republican, Democrat or Libertarian.
"Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine whether I should get a haircut.

Yep, that works.
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- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
- Klaus, 4/29/18
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George K
Jun 23 2016, 04:29 PM
Aqua Letifer
Jun 23 2016, 04:18 PM
Axtremus
Jun 23 2016, 04:11 PM
Gary Johnson: 'Nativism is not an American value'
http://politi.co/28T60Yg

Johnson on immigration: "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine how many workers we allow into the country."
You can start any sentence with "Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine and depending on how you finish it, you can generate a resounding "hell yeah" from any typical Republican, Democrat or Libertarian.
"Let the market, not bureaucrats and special interests, determine whether I should get a haircut.

Yep, that works.
George the laissez-faire capitalist!
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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