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Paris to Cairo
Topic Started: May 19 2016, 12:11 PM (400 Views)
sue
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HOLY CARP!!!
doesn't look good

****.
ok then, crap
Edited by sue, May 19 2016, 12:12 PM.
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Copper
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No terrorists claiming credit

I say the pilot hit the wrong button
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TomK
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Good prices! Egyptian Air: anywhere in Europe to Cairo: $.75.
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Red Rice
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Copper
May 19 2016, 03:14 PM
No terrorists claiming credit

I say the pilot hit the wrong button
Quite possible. A couple of rapid turns, then stepwise rapid descents. Suggests loss of control surfaces, struggle in the cockpit, or pilot inability to deal with a system failure.
Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool.

I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss!

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sue
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Copper
May 19 2016, 03:14 PM
No terrorists claiming credit

I say the pilot hit the wrong button
I hope you are right. Still tragic of course, but somehow less horrific.
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John Galt
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Some flight data has become available.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/05/20/middleeast/egyptair-flight-804-main/index.html
Let us begin anew, remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness.
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John Galt
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From the Beeb:

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There were smoke alerts inside the cabin of the EgyptAir passenger plane before it crashed in the Mediterranean on Thursday, reports say.

Smoke was detected in the toilet and the aircraft's electrics, just minutes before the signal was lost, according to data published on air industry website the Aviation Herald.

However, there has been no official confirmation of the data.

Flight MS804 was en route from Paris to Cairo with 66 people on board.

The Aviation Herald said it had received flight data filed through the Aircraft Communications Addressing and Reporting System (ACARS) from three independent channels.

It said the system showed that at 02:26 local time on Thursday (00:26 GMT) smoke was detected in the Airbus A320 toilet.

A minute later - at 00:27 GMT - there was an avionics smoke alert.

The last ACARS message was at 00:29 GMT, the air industry website said, and the contact with the plane was lost four minutes later at 02;33 local time.

ACARS is used to routinely download flight data to the airline operating the aircraft.

Philip Baum, the editor of Aviation Security International Magazine, told the BBC that technical failure could not be ruled out.

"There was smoke reported in the aircraft lavatory, then smoke in the avionics bay, and over a period of three minutes the aircraft's systems shut down, so you know, that's starting to indicate that it probably wasn't a hijack, it probably wasn't a struggle in the cockpit, it's more likely a fire on board.

"Now whether that was a technical fire, a short circuit, or whether it was because a bomb went off on board, we don't know," he added.


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Discussion on Aviation Herald website;

http://avherald.com/h?article=4987fb09&opt=0

Edited by John Galt, May 20 2016, 05:36 PM.
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On Jun 29th 2016 Egypt's CAA reported that the flight data recorder has been successfully downloaded. Data are present from departure at Charles de Gaulle Airport in Paris until the aircraft was at FL370 just after the ACARS messages (see below in data section) were transmitted. Together with wreckage parts from the front of the aircraft, that had been recovered for showing severe heat damage and thick black smoke damage, there is evidence of a fire in the forward section of the aircraft. The investigation is going to undertake comprehensive analysis to try to determine the source and cause of the fire.
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George K
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Traces of TNT found?

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French investigators studying debris recovered from a downed EgyptAir plane claim to have found traces of the explosive material TNT.

Further analysis of the wreckage, however, has been blocked by Egyptian judicial authorities, French newspaper Le Figaro reports.

Egypt authorities have reportedly demanded a joint report be written alongside France validating the findings, however France has declined, citing the need for more in-depth study.

EgyptAir flight MS804 crashed into the Mediterranean sea while en route to Cairo from Paris on May 19, killing 66 passengers.

The cause of the crash is not known, however a flight data recorder has revealed there was smoke in the lavatory and avionics bay shortly before the flight went down.
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