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| Time to resurrect the Raptor? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Apr 22 2016, 10:59 AM (388 Views) | |
| George K | Apr 22 2016, 10:59 AM Post #1 |
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Finally
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This one:![]() Last month we learned that the radar on the F-35 has to be rebooted every now and then. Just what I'd like on a mission.
But wait! there's more! Isn't it time to stop throwing money at this turkey? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Jolly | Apr 23 2016, 05:37 AM Post #2 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Boffins are a necessary evil in the development and use of modern military hardware. Sounds like Lockheed has a bad bunch of geeks. On another note, the "computer" on an A-6 used to get hung up, and would have to be kicked to free up the drum during an attack run. Ain't technology wonderful? |
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| Mikhailoh | Apr 23 2016, 05:43 AM Post #3 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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How technologically "advanced" can our weapons get before they are untenable in battle? Have we gotten there? |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Red Rice | Apr 23 2016, 05:54 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The Raptor is already considered obsolete by the Air Force, especially with regards to its stealth capabilities. The F-35 has proven itself a bust thus far. The Air Force and Navy now want 6th generation fighters: stealthier, longer range, cyber hardened, and multiple weapons packages including heat-efficient lasers.![]()
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| George K | Apr 23 2016, 05:55 AM Post #5 |
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Finally
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How long before Gen 6 fighters are online? 20 years? More? One only needs to look at the F-35 timeline to speculate. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Red Rice | Apr 23 2016, 06:13 AM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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They're aiming for 2030(ish). Time and budget of course are entirely unpredictable when it comes to aircraft procurement, so it's safe to say that 2030 won't happen. It's actually a shame the F-35 has turned out so badly. The inspiration was the F-4 Phantom, a design so outstanding and yet inexpensive (each plane cost less than $20 million in today's dollars) that it was adopted by the Navy, the Air Force and the Marines. The F-35 program was aiming to provide the same kind versatile, multi-service, yet inexpensive jet. But the requirements of each service have advanced so much since the Phantom that it's impossible for a single fighter design, despite service-specific modifications, to fulfill them all well without significant compromise and expense. (Of course, apart from this the entire procurement and production process was a complete clusterfvck and have ironically made the F-35 the most expensive weapons system in history). For the 6th generation fighter, the Air Force and Navy are going back to separate designs. And don't forget drones... |
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| George K | Apr 24 2016, 03:58 AM Post #7 |
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Finally
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Here's what it would take to get more F-22s. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| George K | Apr 27 2016, 10:19 AM Post #8 |
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Finally
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John McCain: "The F-35 is a scandal and a tragedy."
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Red Rice | Jul 14 2016, 06:50 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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F-35B Lightning wows the crowd at Farnborough http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/14/aviation/farnborough-2016-wow-moments/index.html |
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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