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Trump accuses Cruz of electoral fraud
Topic Started: Feb 3 2016, 10:19 AM (852 Views)
jon-nyc
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George K
Feb 3 2016, 04:45 PM
John said that George is a drunk. Mik said to Larry that he heard that George is a drunk. Is that an implication or an inference?
It sounds like a consensus.
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John Galt
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John, George, Mik, and Larry walked into a bar....
Let us begin anew, remembering on both sides that civility is not a sign of weakness.
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George K
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John Galt
Feb 3 2016, 07:45 PM
John, George, Mik, and Larry walked into a bar....
And D'Oh tried to get home...

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Larry
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Another point that must be remembered - no one from Carson's staff said a thing about him "making a big announcement". That part was made up from whole cloth by a Cruz staffer.
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George K
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Larry
Feb 3 2016, 08:04 PM
no one from Carson's staff said a thing about him "making a big announcement". That part was made up from whole cloth by a Cruz staffer.
True.
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Klaus
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Axtremus
Feb 3 2016, 02:50 PM
Larry
Feb 3 2016, 02:07 PM
If a lot of people who were going to vote for Carson did not vote for Carson but instead voted for Cruz because of Cruz' staff sending out an email saying Carson was out of the race, then yes, Cruz stole Iowa.

That is how I see it as well.
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George K
Feb 3 2016, 04:25 PM
Pedant alert: "inferred."


Could be either, really. Or "eyether", if you prefer. :)

I have to say, it sounds like somebody, or several somebodies, did some bloviating of their own. I'm with Ax here, I don't see how "going to Florida" equates to leaving the race. It looks like a simple mistake from Cruz' staff -- about Carson's leaving -- has grown like Topsy into some kind of perceived deliberate theft on Cruz' part. And if John Galt (?) is right, it didn't damage Carson, anyway.

And am I right, that the accusation of theft originated with Trump?

And CNN was wrong about at least one thing when they said "every candidate" would be going to New Hampshire. Trump won't. From George's quote, I don't get anything from CNN beyond opinion and speculation, and not very intelligent at that. Well, the media.
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Feb 3 2016, 11:19 PM
Axtremus
Feb 3 2016, 02:50 PM
Larry
Feb 3 2016, 02:07 PM
If a lot of people who were going to vote for Carson did not vote for Carson but instead voted for Cruz because of Cruz' staff sending out an email saying Carson was out of the race, then yes, Cruz stole Iowa.

That is how I see it as well.
I've made a note in my calendar to remember this day until eternity.
In many ways, Donald Trump is like Saint Francis of Assisi,

‘Where there is discord, may we bring harmony.
Where there is error, may we bring truth.
Where there is doubt, may we bring faith.
And where there is despair, may we bring hope’
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Klaus
Feb 3 2016, 11:19 PM
Axtremus
Feb 3 2016, 02:50 PM
Larry
Feb 3 2016, 02:07 PM
If a lot of people who were going to vote for Carson did not vote for Carson but instead voted for Cruz because of Cruz' staff sending out an email saying Carson was out of the race, then yes, Cruz stole Iowa.

That is how I see it as well.
I've made a note in my calendar to remember this day until eternity.
We will discuss this at length.
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Trump is also like Saint Francis in that he gives shelter to small animals.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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George K
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George K
Feb 3 2016, 03:55 PM
Axtremus
Feb 3 2016, 03:38 PM
Strawman alert.

The accusation was that the Cruz campaign insinuated that Carson is dropping out, not about "going to Florida."
Fair enough, if true.

Do you know exactly what the Cruz campaign said? I don't.

Here's the closest I could find: http://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/cruz-carson-dirty-tricks-iowa-caucuses-timeline
Video of the CNN story. What does it sound like to you?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jCzksoprMP4

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HOLY CARP!!!
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Cruz campaign's voice mail to their Iowa precinct captains:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RBdaAY3z2B4
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