Best commentary on tonight's caucuses

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Best commentary on tonight's caucuses
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Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 04:55 AM Post #26
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	All that really matters is the delegate count. In that regard, it really was a three way tie and that translates to a Rubio win, IMO.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


Mikhailoh	Feb 2 2016, 04:55 AM Post #27
If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead Posts: 92,842 Group: Members Member #181 Joined: April 26, 2005	She's fading and trying not to.
	Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball


George K	Feb 2 2016, 04:56 AM Post #28
Finally Posts: 89,012 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: August 4, 2005	WSJ: Quote: The night�s biggest loser, to borrow a word, was Mr. Trump, who in the end couldn�t turn his large crowds and polling leads into enough caucus voters. There�s no doubt the New York businessman helped to generate higher turnout, which broke recent caucus records for Republicans. But perhaps he should have attended that debate last week after all, or maybe there are limits to his unconventional media-dominated, celebrity politics. Mr. Trump still leads in the New Hampshire polls, but one question is how he will respond to the uncomfortable reality of second place. His speech on Monday night was, to borrow another phrase, low-energy. Instead Mr. Cruz prevailed like Mike Huckabee (2008) and Rick Santorum (2012) by mobilizing the state�s cultural conservatives into a 28% plurality. The first-term Texas Senator had the support of Iowa�s conservative pastors network, he spent months organizing across the state, and his campaign invested heavily in voter analytics. The Texan also passed the first test of his theory that he can win the GOP nomination, and then the Presidency, with a hard-edged conservative message. The question going into New Hampshire and beyond is whether Mr. Cruz can expand his coalition beyond the most conservative voters. The entrance polls showed he did less well than both Mr. Trump and Marco Rubio among voters who said they were somewhat conservative or moderate. Mr. Cruz also trailed both men among voters who said they cared about the economy and jobs. To win the nomination, Mr. Cruz will need to broaden his support beyond the Mark Levin-Glenn Beck radio audience. Mr. Rubio was arguably the night�s second-biggest winner with his strong third-place finish at 23%, close behind Mr. Trump�s 24%. He won a plurality of late deciders according to the entrance polls, which suggests that he became the choice of mainstream conservatives who were looking beyond the Trump-Cruz slugfest. The first-term Florida Senator did especially well among voters who said they are looking for someone who can win in November. His speech Monday almost sounded like a victory statement, and its inclusive conservatism was clearly intended as a contrast to Mr. Cruz�s polarizing version.
	A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 05:06 AM Post #29
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	Some good points in there but I think a lot of people are writing Trump off too early. He'll turn that into a positive, by characterizing it as the establishment going after him.
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


George K	Feb 2 2016, 05:08 AM Post #30
Finally Posts: 89,012 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: August 4, 2005	jon-nyc Feb 2 2016, 05:06 AM Some good points in there but I think a lot of people are writing Trump off too early. He'll turn that into a positive, by characterizing it as the establishment going after him. Yes, I agree. And then, if he doesn't do as well as expected, he'll complain that it "wasn't fair." Any idea how he's doing in the rest of the country, aside from the national polls, that is?
	A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 05:39 AM Post #31
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	No, I don't. And after NH the schedule gets pretty Cruz friendly. Though one imagines Trump will also do well in the south.
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


John D'Oh	Feb 2 2016, 05:42 AM Post #32
MAMIL Posts: 53,812 Group: Members Member #276 Joined: October 19, 2005	George K Feb 2 2016, 04:49 AM But, geez, those were over the top even for Coulter. The only way she gets noticed is by being the rudest person in the room, and now she's got to be ruder than Trump.
	What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 05:42 AM Post #33
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	Trump's up big in South Carolina and Florida. Sigh, just when I started feeling a little better, I had to go look at those polls.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 05:45 AM Post #34
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	John D'Oh Feb 2 2016, 05:42 AM George K Feb 2 2016, 04:49 AM But, geez, those were over the top even for Coulter. The only way she gets noticed is by being the rudest person in the room, and now she's got to be ruder than Trump. For crying out loud, he accused Megyn Kelly for "PMSing". This is the state of discourse we have to look forward to. Of course, on the other side we have Howard Dean's grandfather.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 05:46 AM Post #35
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	Florida will be interesting. Cuban vote gets split, cracker vote all goes Trump.
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 05:47 AM Post #36
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	Luke's Dad Feb 2 2016, 05:45 AM Of course, on the other side we have Howard Dean's grandfather. Lol
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 05:48 AM Post #37
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	How the hell is Trump doing so well in Northern States?
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 05:51 AM Post #38
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	Luke's Dad Feb 2 2016, 05:48 AM How the hell is Trump doing so well in Northern States? One New Hampshire resident's take: http://www.steynonline.com/7432/the-world-they-made
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 05:57 AM Post #39
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	jon-nyc Feb 2 2016, 05:51 AM Luke's Dad Feb 2 2016, 05:48 AM How the hell is Trump doing so well in Northern States? One New Hampshire resident's take: http://www.steynonline.com/7432/the-world-they-made Except it's Trump.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 05:59 AM Post #40
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	Yes but it's the Pat Buchanan / Lou Dobbs message. It's a rust belt winner.
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 06:01 AM Post #41
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	Great, and he can bring Donald Sterling on as his running mate.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


jon-nyc	Feb 2 2016, 06:18 AM Post #42
Cheers Posts: 54,428 Group: Moderators Member #119 Joined: April 22, 2005	That's the ticket!
	In my defense, I was left unsupervised.


Copper	Feb 2 2016, 07:07 AM Post #43
Shortstop Posts: 29,907 Group: Members Member #426 Joined: February 14, 2007	Luke's Dad Feb 2 2016, 05:48 AM How the hell is Trump doing so well in Northern States? He likes the United States. I think it is really that simple.
	The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy


Mikhailoh	Feb 2 2016, 07:21 AM Post #44
If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead Posts: 92,842 Group: Members Member #181 Joined: April 26, 2005	I agree with that. He presents as being for America first, not the rest of the world.
	Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 07:37 AM Post #45
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	Donald loves Donald and puts Donald first. Donald loves Money and puts Money second. Donald loves Fame and puts Fame third. Donald loves Power and puts Power fourth. I'm pretty sure that America falls somewhere around 73rd on Donald's list.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


Luke's Dad	Feb 2 2016, 07:38 AM Post #46
Emperor Pengin Posts: 25,632 Group: Members Member #8 Joined: April 18, 2005	Mikhailoh Feb 2 2016, 07:21 AM I agree with that. He presents as being for America first, not the rest of the world. Emphasis mine.
	The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it.


George K	Feb 2 2016, 09:26 AM Post #47
Finally Posts: 89,012 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: August 4, 2005	�The economic nationalist couldn�t get a quarter of the GOP vote. The economic socialist got half the Democratic vote. Who�s extreme again?�
	A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18


George K	Feb 2 2016, 09:28 AM Post #48
Finally Posts: 89,012 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: August 4, 2005	If I were Bernie, I'd ask to see the coins: 6 coin tosses - 6 wins for Hillary.
	A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18


John D'Oh	Feb 2 2016, 09:32 AM Post #49
MAMIL Posts: 53,812 Group: Members Member #276 Joined: October 19, 2005	George K Feb 2 2016, 09:26 AM �The economic nationalist couldn�t get a quarter of the GOP vote. The economic socialist got half the Democratic vote. Who�s extreme again?� Obviously not the 59% making up Trump, Cruz and Carson votes combined. Those guys are total moderates.
	What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?


George K	Feb 2 2016, 09:58 AM Post #50
Finally Posts: 89,012 Group: Members Member #249 Joined: August 4, 2005	Missing Precints Quote: John Wagner ✔@WPJohnWagner Sanders's camp says that the Iowa Democratic Party has informed the campaigns that the caucus results from 90 precincts are missing. 11:52 PM - 1 Feb 2016 The ghost of LBJ is in Iowa.
	A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18

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