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Economist predicts the GOP will take 47 states; The bad news is...
Topic Started: Jan 11 2016, 08:03 PM (700 Views)
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that the economist is Arthur Laffer. The only person in the country who believes anything he has to say is Larry.

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Steve, I hate to break the news to you, but Laffer is quite highly regarded in the field of economics, and contrary to your deluded view of his economic theory, history proved it to be correct.

Perhaps instead of just regurgitating the mindless sh!t the Left tells you to think, you could take a few moments to research the matter. You see Steve, at the same time we were cutting taxes, Japan was raising theirs, doing the opposite of what Laffer's theory said should be done - doing what the Leftwing nutjobs told you to think should be done. Do you know what happened, Steve? Japan's economy stumbled, and they've still not regained the lead over us they had and lost.

Perhaps asking you to actually learn something about economics is too much, though.
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But he's correct about the upcoming election....

Hillary's day is over, the democrat party's day is over, and for that matter, the "republican establishment's" day is over. The landslide that's coming for the republican nominee is going to be huge - and we owe it all to Obama and today's fascistdemocrat party...
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Jan 11 2016, 08:32 PM
Steve, I hate to break the news to you, but Laffer is quite highly regarded in the field of economics, and contrary to your deluded view of his economic theory, history proved it to be correct.

Perhaps instead of just regurgitating the mindless sh!t the Left tells you to think, you could take a few moments to research the matter. You see Steve, at the same time we were cutting taxes, Japan was raising theirs, doing the opposite of what Laffer's theory said should be done - doing what the Leftwing nutjobs told you to think should be done. Do you know what happened, Steve? Japan's economy stumbled, and they've still not regained the lead over us they had and lost.

Perhaps asking you to actually learn something about economics is too much, though.
I'm an economist. I hate to break it to you, Larry, but AL is mostly an eye-roll to professional economists. He once WAS a decent economist, back in the 1970s and early 80s but very little that is taken seriously has come from his pen (or keyboard) in quite some time ... except to people in right wing echo chambers.
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Larry
Jan 11 2016, 08:37 PM
The landslide that's coming for the republican nominee is going to be huge
Don't you mean 'Yuge'? :lol2:

Let's be honest, I have absolutely no idea who's going to win the next election, and neither do you or Mr. Laffer.

In case you wish to disagree, I would remind you that you repeatedly said that Obama would be beaten like a red-headed stepchild by Mitt Romney. It is eminently possible that the Republican establishment will be beaten by a red-headed stepchild, although who the hair originally belonged to is of course anybody's guess.
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Larry
Jan 11 2016, 08:32 PM
Steve, I hate to break the news to you, but Laffer is quite highly regarded in the field of economics, and contrary to your deluded view of his economic theory, history proved it to be correct.

Perhaps instead of just regurgitating the mindless sh!t the Left tells you to think, you could take a few moments to research the matter. You see Steve, at the same time we were cutting taxes, Japan was raising theirs, doing the opposite of what Laffer's theory said should be done - doing what the Leftwing nutjobs told you to think should be done. Do you know what happened, Steve? Japan's economy stumbled, and they've still not regained the lead over us they had and lost.

Perhaps asking you to actually learn something about economics is too much, though.
Even if your history and macro were 100% correct that wouldn't validate Laffer so much as Keynes.

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Jan 11 2016, 08:37 PM
But he's correct about the upcoming election....

Hillary's day is over, the democrat party's day is over, and for that matter, the "republican establishment's" day is over. The landslide that's coming for the republican nominee is going to be huge - and we owe it all to Obama and today's fascistdemocrat party...


Over is a big overstatement, Larry. Given the nature and demographics of the American people, there will always be a Democratic Party or something like it. If it vanished tomorrow, in no time something similar would rise from the ashes.

I grieve that there is a big enough faction in this country to have elected Obama a second time -- the first could be explained, sort of -- and that same faction arguably is keeping HRC alive. I say arguably; I don't really know or understand the secret of her continuing viability. But the very fact that a heretofore largely ignored entity like Bern is being seriously considered as a contender tells me one thing and one only: Nobody would give a rip for Bernie Sanders as POTUS unless the country seriously doesn't want HRC. it's like, any port in a storm, so long as it isn't Hillary.

How big an ego does it take to keep pushing for POTUS under such conditions?

And I wouldn't bet the farm (ha-ha, get it?) on a Republican landslide either, for that matter. Obama was re-elected, remember. Do you think there's been some kind of big wakeup?

And do you seriously contemplate a one-party system in this country? That's the worst possible development.
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Jan 12 2016, 05:00 AM
Over is a big overstatement, Larry.
Don't worry, he says this every four years, it's completely normal.

As the year progresses, this place will become sillier and sillier as people on both sides of the debate struggle to separate what they want to happen from what is actually happening. It's generally a lot of fun.
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Jan 11 2016, 08:32 PM
Steve, I hate to break the news to you, but Laffer is quite highly regarded in the field of economics, and contrary to your deluded view of his economic theory, history proved it to be correct.

Perhaps instead of just regurgitating the mindless sh!t the Left tells you to think, you could take a few moments to research the matter. You see Steve, at the same time we were cutting taxes, Japan was raising theirs, doing the opposite of what Laffer's theory said should be done - doing what the Leftwing nutjobs told you to think should be done. Do you know what happened, Steve? Japan's economy stumbled, and they've still not regained the lead over us they had and lost.

Perhaps asking you to actually learn something about economics is too much, though.
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As the year progresses, this place will become sillier and sillier as people on both sides of the debate struggle to separate what they want to happen from what is actually happening. It's generally a lot of fun.


Oh, hot-diggity. I can hardly wait. :biggrin:


Although, I have to claim firsties for being so abysmally unclued about Trump.
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Actually, the democrat party died back in the 70s. The republican party is in its death throws now. What we call the democrat party today is the Socialist Party. It's yet to be seen what the republican party will morph into..

but at the rate we're going both will be replaced sometime in the next 20 years by a Caliphate..

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Do you think there's been some kind of big wakeup?


Something seems to be happening, that's for sure.. According to what I've been reading, 20% of those who call themselves democrats plan to vote for Trump, the number of people who call themselves democrat is dropping, the republicans aren't benefiting from it, and the tiny group of leftwing nutjobs who have been running the show the last 7 years are watching all their ideological wet dreams go down in flames of failure.

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Jan 12 2016, 05:24 AM
Actually, the democrat party died back in the 70s. The republican party is in its death throws now. What we call the democrat party today is the Socialist Party. It's yet to be seen what the republican party will morph into..

but at the rate we're going both will be replaced sometime in the next 20 years by a Caliphate..

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Do you think there's been some kind of big wakeup?


Something seems to be happening, that's for sure.. According to what I've been reading, 20% of those who call themselves democrats plan to vote for Trump, the number of people who call themselves democrat is dropping, the republicans aren't benefiting from it, and the tiny group of leftwing nutjobs who have been running the show the last 7 years are watching all their ideological wet dreams go down in flames of failure.

What have you been reading?
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Jan 12 2016, 04:39 AM
I'm an economist. I hate to break it to you, Larry, but AL is mostly an eye-roll to professional economists. He once WAS a decent economist, back in the 1970s and early 80s but very little that is taken seriously has come from his pen (or keyboard) in quite some time ... except to people in right wing echo chambers.


You're an economics professor, if I'm not mistaken.

Steve implied that Laffer wasn't taken seriously because of his supply side economic theory, not because he became a bit of a clown after that.

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Andy, I told you to never speak to me again. Shut the f*ck up.
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Jan 12 2016, 05:24 AM
It's yet to be seen what the republican party will morph into..
Currently, it's looking a little Disneyesque, although they still need to cull a few dwarfs.
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Jan 12 2016, 05:26 AM
What have you been reading?
The 20% number: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265330-some-dems-would-defect-for-trump-poll-shows
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About 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they would buck the party and vote for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in a general election, according to a new poll.

The willingness of some Democrats to change sides could be a major problem for Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton this fall.

The new figures were released by Mercury Analytics, a research company with clients that include MSNBC and Fox News, as the result of an online poll and dial-test of Trump’s first campaign ad.
A smaller number of Republicans say they’d vote for Clinton — about 14 percent.

Democrats (and Republicans, which Larry didn't mention) falling to historic lows: http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles

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n 2015, for the fifth consecutive year, at least four in 10 U.S. adults identified as political independents. The 42% identifying as independents in 2015 was down slightly from the record 43% in 2014. This elevated percentage of political independents leaves Democratic (29%) and Republican (26%) identification at or near recent low points, with the modest Democratic advantage roughly where it has been over the past five years.
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Jan 12 2016, 05:00 AM

Over is a big overstatement, Larry.
I was just trying to add some balance to Steve's typical delusional commentary, Cats... lol
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Jan 12 2016, 05:29 AM
Andy, I told you to never speak to me again. Shut the f*ck up.


Guess the Christmas truce is over. :silly:
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No, the mouthy little sh!t came back.
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Jan 12 2016, 05:30 AM
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Jan 12 2016, 05:26 AM
What have you been reading?
The 20% number: http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/265330-some-dems-would-defect-for-trump-poll-shows
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About 20 percent of likely Democratic voters say they would buck the party and vote for Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump in a general election, according to a new poll.

The willingness of some Democrats to change sides could be a major problem for Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton this fall.

The new figures were released by Mercury Analytics, a research company with clients that include MSNBC and Fox News, as the result of an online poll and dial-test of Trump’s first campaign ad.
A smaller number of Republicans say they’d vote for Clinton — about 14 percent.

Democrats (and Republicans, which Larry didn't mention) falling to historic lows: http://www.gallup.com/poll/188096/democratic-republican-identification-near-historical-lows.aspx?g_source=Politics&g_medium=newsfeed&g_campaign=tiles

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n 2015, for the fifth consecutive year, at least four in 10 U.S. adults identified as political independents. The 42% identifying as independents in 2015 was down slightly from the record 43% in 2014. This elevated percentage of political independents leaves Democratic (29%) and Republican (26%) identification at or near recent low points, with the modest Democratic advantage roughly where it has been over the past five years.
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Thanks George. Lot of speculation of course.
I'm reminded of the polls taken at our last general election when things were supposedly too close to call etc etc. and all parties were scared they were going to lose.
Then the Tories absolutely trounced Labour.
Naturally there were theories that the polling industry cynically, collectively, manipulated their findings. Well it's a good little earner.
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As of now I predict Hillary is going to win. (Not that I want her to win) but as long as Trump is driving the Republicans right they will nominate a polarizing right wing candidate (Trump or similar) and they will get blown out of the water. The country is tuning left and I don't see much to stop it.

Look:

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The record number1 of Latinos who cast ballots for president this year are the leading edge of an ascendant ethnic voting bloc that is likely to double in size within a generation, according to a Pew Hispanic Center analysis based on U.S. Census Bureau data, Election Day exit polls and a new nationwide survey of Hispanic immigrants.

The nation’s 53 million Hispanics comprise 17% of the total U.S. population but just 10% of all voters this year, according to the national exit poll. To borrow a boxing metaphor, they still “punch below their weight.”

However, their share of the electorate will rise quickly for several reasons. The most important is that Hispanics are by far the nation’s youngest ethnic group. Their median age is 27 years—and just 18 years among native-born Hispanics—compared with 42 years for that of white non-Hispanics. In the coming decades, their share of the age-eligible electorate will rise markedly through generational replacement alone.


http://www.pewhispanic.org/2012/11/14/an-awakened-giant-the-hispanic-electorate-is-likely-to-double-by-2030/

And of course the Republicans can't do a better job of alienating these people.

Edited by TomK, Jan 12 2016, 07:16 AM.
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Hillary isn't even going to be on the ticket.

You can't run for president from a prison cell....
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Jan 12 2016, 07:15 AM
As of now I predict Hillary is going to win. (Not that I want her to win) but as long as Trump is driving the Republicans right they will nominate a polarizing right wing candidate (Trump or similar) and they will get blown out of the water. The country is tuning left and I don't see much to stop it.
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Ms. Clinton is a woman

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Jan 12 2016, 07:18 AM
Hillary isn't even going to be on the ticket.

You can't run for president from a prison cell....
Why not?
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Jan 12 2016, 07:18 AM
Hillary isn't even going to be on the ticket.

You can't run for president from a prison cell....
I hope you are right--but I think you are playing a dangerous game.
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