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| George K | Jun 29 2016, 05:47 AM Post #176 |
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TB is preventable, and a danger to others. And, I didn't say they should be denied entry, did I? Obesity is, in theory, preventable, but not an imminent danger to others. I have to get a TB test every 2 years. I don't find it much of a burden. I think a society has a right, no, a duty, to protect its citizens from diseases that are transmissible and dangerous. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 29 2016, 06:07 AM Post #177 |
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I had to get a TB test as part of my Green card application. My arm swelled up like a bloody balloon. I tried to tell them it was because my blood was English and reacted badly to foreign injections (at least I didn't say annoying little pricks), but they made me have the X-ray anyway. |
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| Klaus | Jun 29 2016, 06:22 AM Post #178 |
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And you didn't say the contrary either, hence my question.
Obesity is one of the most deadly conditions. It is also heritable - not primarily via genes, but via social settings. In that sense one could even say that is infectious.
True, but one can argue that a society also has a duty to support people who need help, so obviously this is a situation where one needs to find a reasonable balance of conflicting goals. |
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| George K | Jun 29 2016, 06:28 AM Post #179 |
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I think it's unreasonable to deny to an entire class, or group. However, there should be a mechanism in place to assure that their entry is safe for the society which they are joining.
Exactly. What are the relative risks of exposing hundreds or more people to a terrible, terrible disease vs denying a few people entry because they are in need? I'll leave that to the philosophers and ethicists. Oh and One can say that about a lot of "social" things - smoking, alcohol, etc. Edited by George K, Jun 29 2016, 06:29 AM.
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 29 2016, 06:30 AM Post #180 |
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The stupid thing about testing me for TB for the Green card was that they did it after I'd lived here for 4 years
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| Moonbat | Jun 29 2016, 06:31 AM Post #181 |
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I think Merkel balanced them quite well. |
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| Klaus | Jun 29 2016, 06:32 AM Post #182 |
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Except that, by your choice of adjectives, you made it clear that you don't need philosophers or ethicists to find your answer to that question
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| Klaus | Jun 29 2016, 06:33 AM Post #183 |
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How about we give you Merkel and her CDU and you give us the Tories in return? Deal? |
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| Moonbat | Jun 29 2016, 06:34 AM Post #184 |
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Deal |
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| Klaus | Jun 29 2016, 06:35 AM Post #185 |
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| Moonbat | Jun 29 2016, 06:39 AM Post #186 |
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| John D'Oh | Jun 29 2016, 06:43 AM Post #187 |
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Oh no, Klaus. You get Nigel. |
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| Klaus | Jun 29 2016, 06:55 AM Post #188 |
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OK, but only if you take our own Euroskeptic party, "Alternative für Deutschland" in return. |
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| George K | Jul 6 2016, 05:29 PM Post #189 |
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Yeah, the bad guys were "for the most part, immigrants".
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Jul 6 2016, 06:00 PM Post #190 |
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What's the thesis here? Don't let in immigrants because they're sex criminals? |
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| Copper | Jul 6 2016, 06:03 PM Post #191 |
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Different transmission methods https://www.cdc.gov/tb/topic/basics/howtbspreads.htm
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/25/health/25cnd-fat.html?_r=0
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Rainman | Jul 6 2016, 06:10 PM Post #192 |
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Raping women and children, and the government/police/media cover it up? Just WAIT until the Feminists hear about this!! |
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| George K | Aug 6 2016, 07:11 PM Post #193 |
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Women and Children First! Er, no. Not at all:
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Axtremus | Sep 18 2016, 04:09 AM Post #194 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Pope: welcoming refugees helps keeps us safe from terrorism http://www.foxnews.com/world/2016/09/17/pope-welcoming-refugees-helps-keeps-us-safe-from-terrorism.html |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 18 2016, 04:11 AM Post #195 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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So send them to Argentina. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Axtremus | Sep 18 2016, 04:12 AM Post #196 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Vatican is closer. |
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| Catseye | Sep 18 2016, 04:13 AM Post #197 |
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He got you there, Mik.
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| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| Mikhailoh | Sep 18 2016, 04:15 AM Post #198 |
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Gas is cheap. The church is rich. No problem. |
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| George K | Sep 18 2016, 04:22 AM Post #199 |
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Keep them there, then. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Axtremus | Sep 20 2016, 01:34 PM Post #200 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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George Soros To Invest $500 Million In Helping Refugees, Migrants http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2016/09/20/george-soros-to-invest-500-million-in-helping-refugees-migrants_n_12102164.html |
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He got you there, Mik.

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