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| Shootings in Paris | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 13 2015, 01:38 PM (3,327 Views) | |
| Piano*Dad | Nov 15 2015, 03:25 PM Post #76 |
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Oh, that one makes my head hurt. |
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| Piano*Dad | Nov 15 2015, 03:26 PM Post #77 |
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Well, the current French state of emergency does allow the government to seize weapons, even legally owned ones.
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| TomK | Nov 15 2015, 03:59 PM Post #78 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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| jon-nyc | Nov 15 2015, 04:25 PM Post #79 |
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Cheers
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Lol. |
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| Newpianoplayer | Nov 15 2015, 05:35 PM Post #80 |
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| Horace | Nov 15 2015, 05:40 PM Post #81 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yeah fine, whatever. Nobody gives a f*** until it affects them. This is humanity, this is history. ISIS is apparently a thing now. Because they convinced some young dudes to pull the trigger at a bunch of other people's heads. This is what I know: we are not getting off this planet. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| sue | Nov 15 2015, 05:51 PM Post #82 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't think prayer is the answer, and I don't think one's "status update" is worth any serious discussion. |
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| Copper | Nov 15 2015, 06:11 PM Post #83 |
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First it says don't pray for Paris, then it says pray for Paris. It's kind of an ambiguous direction. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Nov 15 2015, 06:35 PM Post #84 |
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Yeah it almost made sense. |
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| Piano*Dad | Nov 15 2015, 07:20 PM Post #85 |
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The Beirut bombings were widely covered in the press. Emotional arguments that start from very distorted "facts" don't much impress me. |
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| Renauda | Nov 15 2015, 07:46 PM Post #86 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I am growing weary of these maudlin fellow traveller memes as well. In fact when I first heard about the Paris attacks over the radio I thought they were reporting about the previous day's Beirut attack. |
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| Steve Miller | Nov 16 2015, 12:23 AM Post #87 |
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Bull-Carp
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wow |
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Wag more Bark less | |
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| bachophile | Nov 16 2015, 04:30 AM Post #88 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't buy this "why only Europe gets attention" when there is violence everywhere. The reason the western world reacts to Paris is because most of the global reaction is from centers of populations with European background. Meaning Europe and north and South America. They can identify on a personal level. I don't expect a moment of silence in Beijing or Singapore. What is upsetting that we don't see an outpouring of grief for Beirut in the Arab world. Or the African world wailing in pain for Nigerian atrocities. If those societies can't identify with their own horrific losses, why should anyone expect Europe or the Americas to do so. And besides, in the end I think we Anglo/Europeans do cry more for Beirut and Africa than their own people. And maybe therein lies the difference. |
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| Piano*Dad | Nov 16 2015, 06:21 AM Post #89 |
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That's it, in a nutshell. And it goes along with the zero refugee stance of much of the Arabian peninsula, from where Wahabi triumphalism emerged. And I think the people who wail that no one pays attention to atrocities in places like Beirut probably don't read The Daily Star or the Times of Israel, or even Al-Jazeerah, papers that actually cover the middle east in depth. But heck, the BBC has very thorough coverage of the middle east. So do most major "western" outlets. |
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| TomK | Nov 16 2015, 06:29 AM Post #90 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Different cultures have different ideas of what is important in life. It goes almost unnoticed in places like Iraq that Shia are murdering Sunni and Sunni are murdering Shia. That's what all those mosque bombing are all about--and it's completely reasonable to large numbers of people to kill someone for having a "wrong" idea of how the legitimate heir or the Profit is. The reason ISIS is so brutal in killing Iraqis and Syrians they capture is because of religious differences, because people that disrespect the will of Allah (and that's you and me, too) shouldn't be allowed to live. On their side--the West went through the 30 Years War with Protestant and Catholics fighting each other and we certainly did enough harm to Jews living in Europe to understand how easy all this could be. But the West went through an "age of reason," Islam did not. It's going to be a while before these people understand what we understand. |
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| Copper | Nov 16 2015, 07:50 AM Post #91 |
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The Dow doesn't seem to be too worried about the events in Paris. I guess we can put the whole thing behind us now and get on with electing Ms. Clinton. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Axtremus | Nov 16 2015, 06:04 PM Post #92 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Stumbled upon this 2014 article "You Can't Understand ISIS If You Don't Know the History of Wahhabism in Saudi Arabia" and thought this post. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alastair-crooke/isis-wahhabism-saudi-arabia_b_5717157.html |
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| George K | Nov 17 2015, 05:33 AM Post #93 |
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Inside the nightclub - after the carnage: (Graphic content) http://no-pasaran.blogspot.com/2015/11/the-paris-attacks-are-work-of-islam.html |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Catseye | Nov 17 2015, 05:45 AM Post #94 |
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What's to understand? |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| TomK | Nov 17 2015, 06:30 AM Post #95 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It's a great article because unlike what President Hollande said yesterday this is a clash of civilizations. These Muslims are living on a completely different level of understanding on what reality looks like than we have. |
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| Copper | Nov 17 2015, 06:34 AM Post #96 |
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Yes, I was thinking that when these refugees start arriving it will be a lot like the Beverly Hillbillies. Without the black gold, Texas tea. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| George K | Nov 17 2015, 10:46 AM Post #97 |
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Talking with my (former) partners at work yesterday. Someone said that these guys were really sophisticated, in their planning, etc. One guy disagreed: "OK, the four of us in this room are going to stage a similar attack. All we need is access to weapons (not that difficult) or bomb-making materials, a map for locations and some semi-accurate wristwatches so each guy can do it at the same time. That's not sophisticated - it's simple planning." |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Nov 17 2015, 11:06 AM Post #98 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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I agree with that. |
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| Catseye | Nov 17 2015, 11:13 AM Post #99 |
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That isn't what I meant. |
| "How awful a knowledge of the truth can be." -- Sophocles, Oedipus Rex | |
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| sue | Nov 17 2015, 11:18 AM Post #100 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I know what you meant, and concur. |
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