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Planned Parenthood and Women's Health
Topic Started: Aug 4 2015, 06:09 AM (414 Views)
George K
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Guess how many mammography facilities Planned Parenthood operates?

Out of 8,700, not one.

Here's a list of the approved mammography facilities: http://www.accessdata.fda.gov/premarket/ftparea/public.zip

For real women's health, you have to look places other than Planned Parenthood.

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That slide is ridiculous, George. The set of all community health centers isn't 'a provider'.

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jon-nyc
Aug 4 2015, 06:37 AM
That slide is ridiculous, George. The set of all community health centers isn't 'a provider'.

Did you click on the link of "providers" for mammography?

That list of so-called "community health centers" includes my hospital.

So, yeah, they, or at least a good number of them, do breast cancer screening.

But, suffice it to say that PP does zero.
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George K
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http://www.nationalreview.com/article/42178/planned-parenthood-womens-health
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The first thing to get clear is that Planned Parenthood actually doesn’t provide all that much for poor, vulnerable women — particularly if they don’t live in cities. Indeed, you may remember that, in wake of the Susan J. Komen defunding ridiculousness from a few years ago, lots of charges were thrown around about women losing out on mammograms. But it turns out that Planned Parenthood doesn’t even provide them. As Democrats for Life has pointed out numerous times in recent days, the number of local community health centers outnumber Planned Parenthood clinics ten to one. Rather than the one-size-fits-all franchise approach of Planned Parenthood, these community health centers nicely embody the principle of subsidiarity in responding to the diverse local needs of women — whether in the Bronx, rural Kansas, or southern California.

Indeed, these community health centers provide everything Planned Parenthood does, and more, but without doing abortions. Instead of offering a simply negative message of defunding Planned Parenthood, we ought to focus on redirecting the half-billion dollars per year to these nonviolent community health centers. This may be difficult if we are in bed with a Republican party, already somewhat embarrassed by its association with the pro-life movement, which would prefer to keep the government out of this kind of funding. But especially if we care about poor women in cities, where Planned Parenthood primarily serves, we should funnel that money toward community health centers in those areas, and resist the temptation to roll over for small-government conservatives. A consistent concern for the vulnerable — including mothers and their prenatal children — requires nothing less.
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George K
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So, if they refer patients for mammograms, and do 1/6 of the pap smears and serve 1/10 of the patients that "community health centers" do, where do they get most of their money?

And the fact that they are responsible for less than 15% of the "healthcare" that women get, makes the Harry Reid trope of "Denying women's health" that more false.

Disclaimer: I hold no strong position on abortion in the first trimester. I do hold a strong position on federal funding of such.
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George K
Aug 4 2015, 06:55 AM
So, if they refer patients for mammograms, and do 1/6 of the pap smears and serve 1/10 of the patients that "community health centers" do, where do they get most of their money?
You're an em dee forchrissake. You know screenings are their own thing, and have value as a medical service (in particular for women below the age at which annual mammograms are indicated - which is PP's demographic). You should not have fallen for the 'but they don't do mamograms' schtick. (If they did do mamograms, would people complain 'they don't even do biopsies'. And if they did those 'but they don't even do oncology....)


Oh, and what does their relative size compared to the set of all unrelated community health centers have to do with their income mix? Why are you trying to relate those things?


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Aug 4 2015, 10:26 AM
George K
Aug 4 2015, 06:55 AM
So, if they refer patients for mammograms, and do 1/6 of the pap smears and serve 1/10 of the patients that "community health centers" do, where do they get most of their money?



Oh, and what does their relative size compared to the set of all unrelated community health centers have to do with their income mix? Why are you trying to relate those things?


An analogy:

IHOP sells fewer eggs than Burger King, fewer pancakes than McDonalds, and less coffee than Starbucks. How could 75% or their revenue come from breakfast foods?

It's a total non-sequitur.
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They make their big money by slicing up baby women, who will never need healthcare, and selling the parts.

The rest doesn't matter.

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Planned Parenthood founder and her admirer

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"I accepted an invitation to talk to the women's branch of the Ku Klux Klan...I saw through the door dim figures parading with banners and illuminated crosses...I was escorted to the platform, was introduced, and began to speak...In the end, through simple illustrations I believed I had accomplished my purpose. A dozen invitations to speak to similar groups were proffered." (Margaret Sanger: An Autobiography, P.366)


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Margaret Sanger believed in eugenics.

Margaret Sanger believed in birth control.

Ergo... ?

Help me out here, Copper. I'm having trouble connecting the dots.
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Or is it:

Margaret Sanger was a racist.

Margaret Sanger founded the American Birth Control League.

The American Birth Control League later became Planned Parenthood

Ergo.... ?
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I guess you are surprised that an organization she founded would end up making money by slicing up unborn black babies and selling the parts. Ironic that she wanted to slaughter them and now their parts are financing her organization.

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TomK
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Not specifically from Planned Parenthood, but---

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http://www.toomanyaborted.com/newyork/


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