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| Are you a boy, or are you a girl?; BC Birth Certificate might not say | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: May 31 2015, 09:48 AM (91 Views) | |
| George K | May 31 2015, 09:48 AM Post #1 |
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Birth certificates are so not inclusive The Human Rights Tribunal in British Columbia will consider completely eliminating gender designations from birth certificates in response to complaints from the Trans Alliance Society (TAS) and other transgender individuals, according to an article in the National Post. According to the complainants, we need to stop acting as if doctors can tell the sex of a baby just by looking at the baby’s genitals: Birth certificates [may] give false information about people and characterize them in a way that is actually wrong, that assumes to be right, and causes people . . . actual harm,” said transgender woman and TAS chair Morgane Oger. “It’s considered true and infallible when it isn’t,” she added. The complainant’s lawyer, barbara findlay (no, that’s not a typo — she spells her name in all lowercase letters because who are you to tell her she can’t), said that the current practice of putting “male” or “female” on birth certificates is downright wrong because: 1. Those are not the only two genders and 2. A person’s “gender develops” over time. “Children are raised ‘as’ the birth-assigned gender, which is a crazy-making experience,” findlay said in an e-mail to the Post. “Instead of living in a social reality that recognizes that gender develops, and does not exist at birth, those children have nothing to work with except that something feels profoundly wrong,” she added. Among the complainants are Colin and Megan Cunningham — the parents of Harriette Cunningham, a transgender child who became one of the first in British Columbia to have her birth certificate changed last year — who claim that “Harriette was mistakenly assigned the gender ‘male’ at birth.” “Since it is impossible to tell an individual’s gender at birth it is discriminatory to issue a birth certificate with that information on it,” the complaint stated. Of course, the tribunal has simply agreed to review the complaints, which does not necessarily mean that the policy will change — especially considering how many people are still holding on to that antiquated view that the designations are helpful for statistical, scientific, and travel purposes. |
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| Luke's Dad | May 31 2015, 10:08 AM Post #2 |
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Emperor Pengin
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We passed the exit for Absurd about 15 miles back. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| jon-nyc | May 31 2015, 11:59 AM Post #3 |
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Cheers
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Its the problem with 'acceptance' vs 'normalization'. I get that the borders of gender are a little fuzzy, physically and psychologically. I am for doing things in such a way to not make those people's lives more difficult than they already are. However pretending that we're all non-binary or gender-confused isn't the answer and they're going to have trouble selling it. |
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| Copper | May 31 2015, 12:23 PM Post #4 |
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Shortstop
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Klaus | May 31 2015, 12:31 PM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't give much of a damn for the few "gender-disoriented" folks. Not because I don't like them, but because they are too few to make everyone else's life more complicated. That said, regardless of the whole "transgender" thing, I think it would be a good idea to ban gender from all legal and government documents, maybe with the exception of those that are biology-dependent (such as those dealing with parent-child relations). Apart from parent-child issues, no reason comes to my mind why a government should ever need to refer to (or know about) genders. |
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| Renauda | May 31 2015, 02:07 PM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I wouldn't take this seriously. It is a trending topic that is exclusively local to the lower mainland of BC. Specifically the greater Vancouver area. It is not an issue this side of the Port Man Bridge anywhere past Port Coquitlam, BC. Move along, nothing to see here. |
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