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Ok Aqua, I've found your bike.
Topic Started: May 19 2015, 01:11 PM (290 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Be the only guy on your block with one:

http://www.sportsmansguide.com/product/index/used-swiss-military-army-surplus-bicycle?a=1781366
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Aqua Letifer
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ZOOOOOM!
Oh that is MOST solid! Just had to comment on this, though:

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One-size-fits-all frame


That's like selling a one-size-fits-all pair of shoes.

Also, I could make one for wayyy cheaper. The rig I have now cost me $180 in gear, and headset to bottom bracket, the parts are as good as any pre-made four times that much.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Yeah, but how many folks have a Swiss Army bicycle?

They're almost as rare as a Swiss Navy bicycle!
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Aqua Letifer
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^_^

Yeah, I know the Danes were pretty big into bike regiments pre-WWII. (Let's be honest about it, the Danes were into just about everything cool, and usually they got there first. The hipsters of 20th Century Europe.) The training and skills were pretty interesting; a lot of similarities between bike runners and rally car navigators, only the bike runners sometimes get shot at and they had to be able to shoot back.

I cite irreconcilable differences.
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George K
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Aqua Letifer
May 19 2015, 05:36 PM
(Let's be honest about it, the Danes were into just about everything cool, and usually they got there first. The hipsters of 20th Century Europe.)
Bushwa.

I've never met a Dane with any sense of humor.

So much for hipsters.

The Dutch are just as bad.
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Mark
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HOLY CARP!!!
Or how about this "Audi" bicycle?

http://blogs.wsj.com/japanrealtime/2015/05/13/audi-unveils-ultralight-bicycle-with-a-cars-price-tag-in-japan/?mod=WSJ_Japan_JapanRealTime

$19,650.00 :rolleyes2:
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George K
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Whoa!

That's more than I make in three days!

Well, it is.
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- Mik, 6/14/08


Nothing is as effective as homeopathy.

I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles.
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Mark
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HOLY CARP!!!
The claimed weight of the "Audi" bike is < 13lbs. (12.8 it is claimed).

This comment sums it up pretty good:

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There are few bicycles weighing less than 6 kg because the minimum weight for a bicycle homolgated by the UCI, cyclings international regulating body, is 6.8 kg. No bike weighing less than this is legal for road racing.


I had my bike just a bit over 6.8kg when I used an ultra-light chain. I broke that chain about 12.5 miles from home one day. Replaced it with a standard weight chain which brought the bike to just under 7.2kg or 16lbs

My bike cost < $3k to build.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
I have a bicycle somewhere..

It was the top of the line when I bought it...

A Huffy, I think.... 99.95?
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Jolly
May 19 2015, 01:11 PM
weighs 52 lbs.
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Mark
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HOLY CARP!!!
Larry
May 19 2015, 06:53 PM
I have a bicycle somewhere..

It was the top of the line when I bought it...

A Huffy, I think.... 99.95?
:lol2: My handlebar stem was more than that.
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Larry
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
But mine came from KMART!!!!!! hahahaha
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Klaus
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HOLY CARP!!!
This is my bike. Really.
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Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Mikhailoh
May 19 2015, 06:53 PM
Jolly
May 19 2015, 01:11 PM
weighs 52 lbs.
Yeah, but it's military.
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Klaus
May 20 2015, 12:00 AM
This is my bike. Really.
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That looks like a good, serviceable bike for city commuting. I've had the bells on bikes like that rung at me when I first visited Germany, until I understood the rules of the sidewalks/bike paths. Is that your primary use for it, Klaus? I haven't noticed a bike around here with a generator for awhile, but I haven't studied all bicycles in detail either.

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John D'Oh
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MAMIL
I've never really understood why people start cycling primarily to get exercise, and then spend gazilions of dollars on ensuring they get the least possible exercise by making the bike as light as possible.

Then again....

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What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Aqua Letifer
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Light = Fast.

That's why singlespeeds rock. Much lighter, and you're more in shape.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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JBryan
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I am the grey one
I prefer a light bike as well. They can really fly if you put the right English on them.
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Jolly
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JBryan
May 20 2015, 05:35 AM
I prefer a light bike as well. They can really fly if you put the right English on them.
Yes, the right English is very important...

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Mark
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HOLY CARP!!!
John D'Oh
May 20 2015, 05:15 AM
I've never really understood why people start cycling primarily to get exercise, and then spend gazilions of dollars on ensuring they get the least possible exercise by making the bike as light as possible.

Then again....

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You would think that by making the bike lighter you wouldn't get as much exercise but I assure you, that assumption is wrong.

Most people who get into cycling primarily to exercise, usually end up riding a hybrid on flat terrain. Hybrids in the price range that most would want to stay, weigh a lot. Easily twice what my bike weighs. These same people get all bitchy and whiny whenever you approach a hill. Most will get off the bike and walk it up the hill. So, yeah, they have to walk a heavier bike up the hill. lmao The overall effect on the amount of exercise in minimal.

I, and people like me, seek out hills. The longer and steeper, to a point, the better. We like to push ourselves over the top and stay on the bike pushing through the pain and exhaustion to do so. The lighter bike permits this. The lighter bike helps to lessen fatigue over long distances. The longer the distance, the more cardio exercise you get. The more cardio you get, the faster you can burn fat and tone muscles.

I would be willing to wager that people who are serious enough about bikes to care what they weigh, and use their bike primarily for fitness, get far more exercise on their bike than people who don't care what they weigh.

The weight of that new chain still bothers me. :lol2:

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Mark
May 19 2015, 06:46 PM
The claimed weight of the "Audi" bike is < 13lbs. (12.8 it is claimed).

This comment sums it up pretty good:

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There are few bicycles weighing less than 6 kg because the minimum weight for a bicycle homolgated by the UCI, cyclings international regulating body, is 6.8 kg. No bike weighing less than this is legal for road racing.


I had my bike just a bit over 6.8kg when I used an ultra-light chain. I broke that chain about 12.5 miles from home one day. Replaced it with a standard weight chain which brought the bike to just under 7.2kg or 16lbs

My bike cost < $3k to build.
Just curious as to why they have a minimum weight?

For bike racing, I think every racer should have to race the exact same bike (accounting for size I guess). That way, everybody is equal and the best athlete should win. :)
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Mark
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HOLY CARP!!!
The minimum weight is for safety reasons. Or so it's claimed.

I guess someone crunched the numbers and decided that, based on the strength of the current materials available for the manufacturing of a bicycle, a minimum amount of it is necessary to withstand the forces it will experience during a bike race.

It doesn't make a lot of sense to me because materials are always progressing and getting stronger and lighter. It's obvious that one can make a bike lighter than the minimum UCI standard but, the UCI seems to think that it is unsafe to do so.

As to a requirement of the weight being the same for all riders, I like the idea. But the "industry" and the competitive nature of the equipment manufacturers, sponsorships, marketing, etc. would not be as intense and innovation would slow down. There is on ongoing competition between the 3 major group-set manufacturers to make their equipment lighter and stronger.

I find my 16lb (or less) carbon fiber bike, a lot more enjoyable to ride than my 23lb aluminum bike. They are both pretty much the same size but the lighter bike is smoother over bumps and accelerates a lot faster than the 23lb bike. The carbon fiber frame is more "compliant" and bumps just don't seem as "intense".
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