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Best summation of Obama I've seen in a while
Topic Started: Mar 22 2015, 11:41 AM (3,619 Views)
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http://nypost.com/2015/03/22/israel-beware-of-obama/

Michael Goodwin

First he comes for the banks and health care, uses the IRS to go after critics, politicizes the Justice Department, spies on journalists, tries to curb religious freedom, slashes the military, throws open the borders, doubles the debt and nationalizes the Internet.

He lies to the public, ignores the Constitution, inflames race relations and urges Latinos to punish Republican “enemies.” He abandons our ­allies, appeases tyrants, coddles ­adversaries and uses the Crusades as an excuse for inaction as Islamist terrorists slaughter their way across the Mideast.

Now he’s coming for Israel.

Barack Obama’s promise to transform America was too modest. He is transforming the whole world before our eyes. Do you see it yet?

Against the backdrop of the tsunami of trouble he has unleashed, Obama’s pledge to “reassess” America’s relationship with Israel cannot be taken lightly. Already paving the way for an Iranian nuke, he is hinting he’ll also let the other anti-Semites at Turtle Bay have their way. That could mean American support for punitive Security Council resolutions or for Palestinian statehood initiatives. It could mean both, or something worse.

Whatever form the punishment takes, it will aim to teach Bibi Netanyahu never again to upstage him. And to teach Israeli voters never again to elect somebody Obama doesn’t like.

Apologists and wishful thinkers, including some Jews, insist Obama real­izes that the special relationship between Israel and the United States must prevail and that allowing too much daylight between friends will encourage enemies.

Those people are slow learners, or, more dangerously, deny-ists.

If Obama’s six years in office teach us anything, it is that he is impervious to appeals to good sense. Quite the contrary. Even respectful suggestions from supporters that he behave in the traditions of American presidents fill him with angry determination to do it his way.

For Israel, the consequences will be intended. Those who make excuses for Obama’s policy failures — naive, bad advice, bad luck — have not come to grips with his dark impulses and deep-seated rage.

His visceral dislike for Netanyahu is genuine, but also serves as a convenient fig leaf for his visceral dislike of Israel. The fact that it’s personal with Netanyahu doesn’t explain six years of trying to bully Israelis into signing a suicide pact with Muslims bent on destroying them. Netanyahu’s only sin is that he puts his nation’s security first and refuses to knuckle ­under to Obama’s endless demands for unilateral concessions.

That refusal is now the excuse to act against Israel. Consider that, for all the upheaval around the world, the president rarely has a cross word for, let alone an open dispute with, any other foreign leader. He calls Great Britain’s David Cameron “bro” and praised Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood president, Mohammed Morsi, who had called Zionists, “the descendants of apes and pigs.”

Obama asked Vladimir Putin for patience, promising “more flexibility” after the 2012 election, a genuflection that earned him Russian aggression. His Asian pivot was a head fake, and China is exploiting the vacuum. None of those leaders has gotten the Netanyahu treatment, which included his being forced to use the White House back door on one trip, and the cold shoulder on another.

It is a clear and glaring double standard.

Most troubling is Obama’s bended-knee deference to Iran’s Supreme Leader, which has been repaid with “Death to America” and “Death to Israel” demonstrations in Tehran and expanded Iranian military action in other countries.

The courtship reached the height of absurdity last week, when Obama wished Iranians a happy Persian new year by equating Republican critics of his nuclear deal with the resistance of theocratic hard-liners, saying both “oppose a diplomatic solution.” That is a damnable slur given that a top American military official estimates that Iranian weapons, proxies and trainers killed 1,500 US soldiers in Iraq and Afghanistan. Who in their right mind would trust such an evil regime with a nuke?

Yet Netanyahu, the leader of our only reliable ally in the region, is ­repeatedly singled out for abuse. He alone is the target of an orchestrated attempt to defeat him at the polls, with Obama political operatives, funded in part by American taxpayers, working to elect his opponent.

They failed and Netanyahu prevailed because Israelis see him as their best bet to protect them. Their choice was wise, but they better buckle up because it’s Israel’s turn to face the wrath of Obama.



------------The man is a piece of sh!t.
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jon-nyc
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I can see why it would appeal to you.
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Larry
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Me too.

Because it's the truth.
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Which of the points made do you think aren't true?
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I confess I stopped reading before I got to any that were. But even then I thought, "Larry's gotta be loving this".
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Larry
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Ah.. stuck your head in the sand, huh..... lol
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It's not uncommon for employees to hate their employer.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Genuflection to Putin? Nonsense. More like a bald faced lie that that Putin did not believe for a second.

Obama has merely continued the tradition initiated by Clinton of meddling in the internal affairs of former Soviet States contrary to the vital interests of the Russian Federation.
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It is always refreshing to read such thoughtful and balanced analyses of the situation. At first I was worried that this would be just a list of unsubstantiated assertions bundled with insults (a.k.a. "facts" in some circles).
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Larry
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Then I'll ask you the same thing I asked Jon.

Which one of the statements made are not true?

Is it:

1. First he comes for the banks and health care
Both of these are true, and the subject of much discussion in the news media

2. uses the IRS to go after critics
Also true, and the subject of much discussion in the news media

3. politicizes the Justice Department
Also true, and the subject of much discussion in the news media

4. spies on journalists
Also true, and the subject of much discussion in the news media

5. tries to curb religious freedom
Also true, and the subject of much discussion in the news media

6. slashes the military
Also true, and the subject of much discussion in the news media

7. throws open the borders
DUH!

8. doubles the debt
DOUBLE DUH!!

9. nationalizes the Internet
Again... true. But maybe it happened so recently you're not up to speed on that one yet..

10.He lies to the public Proven

11. Ignores the Constitution Proven

12. Inflames race relations Proven

13. Urges Latinos to punish Republican “enemies.” Proven

14. He abandons our ­allies Proven

15. Appeases tyrants Proven

16. Coddles ­adversaries Proven

17. Uses the Crusades as an excuse for inaction as Islamist terrorists slaughter their way across the Mideast.Proven

18. Now he’s coming for Israel. You do watch the news and keep up, right?


Tell me - which one of these proven, factual statements do you think isn't true?
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Larry
Mar 23 2015, 12:40 AM
factual statements
See :lol2:
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Larry
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What isn't factual about them?

That's the whole point - each and every one of the statements are stone cold facts. Sorry if that upsets you.
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When a Democrat loses both the New York Post and Larry, he's pretty much done.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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What's a democrat got to do with it? Obama isn't a democrat, he's a Marxist.
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D'Oh - :lol2:
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Larry
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It's no wonder the nation is being pissed away...
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Larry
Mar 23 2015, 04:52 AM
What isn't factual about them?

That's the whole point - each and every one of the statements are stone cold facts. Sorry if that upsets you.
You may want to look up the meaning of "fact". A fact is something that is true regardless of who observes and interprets the data.

For you, a good rule of thumb would be that facts are those things where you and Michael Moore agree on.
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You may want to look up the meaning of "fact". A fact is something that is true regardless of who observes and interprets the data.



Well sorry, but every single one of those statements pass your definition of the word "fact" with flying colors - because regardless of whether you like it or not, every single one of them is provably true.

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So you think Michael Moore (and other "!diots") would agree that these claims are true?
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Of course not.

But then, that isn't a requirement, based on your own definition of the word "Fact". You see, by your own definition, a fact is true regardless of what Michael Moore thinks.

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And if you're trying to argue that a for a fact to be a fact, everyone must agree that it's true, then it is you that doesn't know the meaning of the word "Fact", even with the definition in front of you. Because if that were the intended meaning of that definition, then you must stop calling evolution a fact, for example.

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Mar 23 2015, 05:58 AM

A fact is something that is true regardless of who observes and interprets the data.

So then there's no such thing as a fact if anyone objects.

The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Larry
Mar 23 2015, 06:08 AM
And if you're trying to argue that a for a fact to be a fact, everyone must agree that it's true, then it is you that doesn't know the meaning of the word "Fact", even with the definition in front of you. Because if that were the intended meaning of that definition, then you must stop calling evolution a fact, for example.

There are natural-scientific facts, such as whether the earth is a disk or a sphere. No interpretation of or agreement to the data is necessary.

And then there are political "facts". I used the quotes because the word "fact" is not applicable in most cases because most political things are fuzzy and depend on political ideologies, context, etc. The few cases where the word is applicable are typically those where the political opponents agree on.
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Mar 23 2015, 06:43 AM
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Mar 23 2015, 05:58 AM

A fact is something that is true regardless of who observes and interprets the data.

So then there's no such thing as a fact if anyone objects.

Well, yes, in politics there are almost no "facts".

It's different in the natural sciences, where my statement is implicitly qualified by "within the framework of the scientific method".
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