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Alternative Medicine Covered by ACA
Topic Started: Mar 1 2015, 03:34 PM (265 Views)
George K
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Finally
Naturopaths covered under Obamacare

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This year Washington joined Oregon and Vermont in covering naturopathic care under Medicaid. Now every Washingtonian, regardless of means, has the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of quackery. And taxpayers are footing the bill.

Medicaid coverage is the result of a series of anti-scientific decisions many states have made. The whole mess began with an argument within the community of naturopaths. Many acupuncturists, herbalists, and practitioners of ayurveda have been working for decades without formal training or licensure. As it became clear that there was money to be made in the field, four-year naturopathic colleges sprang up and expanded. Their graduates, who can spend more than $150,000 for their educations, wanted to distinguish themselves from untrained naturopaths, so they lobbied state legislatures to create a licensing system. Many states acquiesced—over the objections of traditional naturopaths—believing that they were protecting consumers. Currently, 18 states and the District of Columbia license naturopaths.

And, this: Vegan diet doesn't cure leukemia
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Florida naturopath facing charges after treating girl’s fatal leukemia with vitamins and vegan diet

controversial herbal “healer” and naturopath is under fire after the death of a teen girl he was treating for leukemia using a strict vegan diet and herbal supplements.

The Canadian Broadcasting Company reported on the death of the teen girl, who was from one of Ontario, Canada’s aboriginal First Nation tribes. Another teen girl from the same community is still in the care of Brian Clement, who Florida officials have ordered to stop practicing medicine and calling himself a doctor.

Clement operates the Hippocrates Institute, a spa-cum-clinic in Orlando, Florida where patients with serious diseases have been treated with what the state of Florida is calling “unproven and possibly dangerous therapies.”

Clement urges his patients to forego conventional medicine like chemotherapy in favor of veganism, supplements, juices and a raw diet.
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As long as Oprah approves the treatment I don't think you need anything else.

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I'm against our provincial health plan including chiropractic treatments. Chiropracty along with homeopathy and naturopathy are all quackery.
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Former neighbor and FB friend posted how excited she was to start acupuncture, then said she was happy to be moving toward Eastern medicine and organic foods. Then she posted the following: "It's amazing that this type of organic healing has been available for centuries and yet a pill is the first thing Americans reach for".

I had to stop myself from a snarky response.
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Mar 1 2015, 06:28 PM
Former neighbor and FB friend posted how excited she was to start acupuncture, then said she was happy to be moving toward Eastern medicine and organic foods. Then she posted the following: "It's amazing that this type of organic healing has been available for centuries and yet a pill is the first thing Americans reach for".

I had to stop myself from a snarky response.
And your snarky response would have been ...

Come on, you're among friends here. :)
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George K
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Naturopath in starving baby case continued to treat children

Granted, it's in Australia, but...

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A Sydney naturopath has pleaded guilty to aiding and and abetting a mother who failed to provide the necessities of life, putting a baby's life in danger, thanks to alternative medical treatments.

The eight-month-old was taken to Marilyn Bodnar's home clinic in Leppington, in Sydney's south west, suffering from eczema, but ended up extremely malnourished and close to death.

Bodnar advised the mother, who we cannot name for legal reasons, to go on a raw food diet, and then later a water only diet, to subdue the skin condition.

The mother presented with the baby to Westmead Hospital in 2015.

When the infant was admitted to hospital, he had lost more than one kilogram and was near death.

Prosecutors tendered a revised indictment to the Downing Centre District Court on Friday, with a lesser charge of aiding and abetting the mother in failing to provide the necessities of life.

In front of a packed gallery, wearing a hot pink sweater, Bodnar answered "guilty, your honour".

She was supported by her husband in court, and made no comment as she briskly left the building.

Since Bodnar had pleaded guilty, we can now reveal the naturopath was accused of manslaughter in 1988, after the death of Narelle Neimann, 42, who was under Bodnar's care and on a water diet for 60 day

Neimann was staying with her friend Bodnar at the time of her death.

Prosecutors argued Bodnar failed to get professional help when her condition deteriorated, but Bodnar was acquitted.

While awaiting this trial, Bodnar's bail conditions stated she was, "not, under any circumstances, to treat any children under the age of 16" and "not to advise any parents who have children under the age of 16".

But 9NEWS can reveal the 61-year-old's website boasted news that she has continued to host workshops, which included fasting advice for parents and special discounts for children under the age of 12.

9NEWS also captured participants arriving for one such seminar earlier this year.

Court documents previously tendered to the court state Bodnar allegedly asked the mother, "Are you 100 per cent raw? You have to be 100 per cent raw if you want to see your son heal."
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Jolly
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Renauda
Mar 1 2015, 06:10 PM
I'm against our provincial health plan including chiropractic treatments. Chiropracty along with homeopathy and naturopathy are all quackery.
Taken within certain bounds, any and all can have benefits.

Haven't used a chiropractor very much, but there have been a few times when I was glad to see one.
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Jolly
Aug 28 2017, 09:42 PM
Renauda
Mar 1 2015, 06:10 PM
I'm against our provincial health plan including chiropractic treatments. Chiropracty along with homeopathy and naturopathy are all quackery.
Taken within certain bounds, any and all can have benefits.

Haven't used a chiropractor very much, but there have been a few times when I was glad to see one.
Dunno. My dermatologist prescribed an over the counter medicine that has no reason to work at all. To his credit he told me that there were no tests proving efficacy.

$10. It works. Not great but better than nothing.
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Jolly
Aug 28 2017, 09:42 PM
Renauda
Mar 1 2015, 06:10 PM
I'm against our provincial health plan including chiropractic treatments. Chiropracty along with homeopathy and naturopathy are all quackery.
Taken within certain bounds, any and all can have benefits.

Haven't used a chiropractor very much, but there have been a few times when I was glad to see one.
I agree with this. I think there are times when alternative medical (like acupuncture) can have benefits. It may only be because of the mind believing so, but that is important also.

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Jolly
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The times I've used a chiropractor over the years have been for back problems. I'm built like a coonass, short legs and long torso...That can lead to some problems when dealing with heavy stuff.

They aren't a cure-all and they certainly aren't going to fix a major problem, but they do me some good.
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