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Could non-citizens decide the November election?
Topic Started: Oct 24 2014, 05:18 PM (167 Views)
George K
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/monkey-cage/wp/2014/10/24/could-non-citizens-decide-the-november-election/
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Could control of the Senate in 2014 be decided by illegal votes cast by non-citizens? Some argue that incidents of voting by non-citizens are so rare as to be inconsequential, with efforts to block fraud a screen for an agenda to prevent poor and minority voters from exercising the franchise, while others define such incidents as a threat to democracy itself. Both sides depend more heavily on anecdotes than data.

In a forthcoming article in the journal Electoral Studies, we bring real data from big social science survey datasets to bear on the question of whether, to what extent, and for whom non-citizens vote in U.S. elections. Most non-citizens do not register, let alone vote. But enough do that their participation can change the outcome of close races.

Our data comes from the Cooperative Congressional Election Study (CCES). Its large number of observations (32,800 in 2008 and 55,400 in 2010) provide sufficient samples of the non-immigrant sub-population, with 339 non-citizen respondents in 2008 and 489 in 2010. For the 2008 CCES, we also attempted to match respondents to voter files so that we could verify whether they actually voted.

How many non-citizens participate in U.S. elections? More than 14 percent of non-citizens in both the 2008 and 2010 samples indicated that they were registered to vote. Furthermore, some of these non-citizens voted. Our best guess, based upon extrapolations from the portion of the sample with a verified vote, is that 6.4 percent of non-citizens voted in 2008 and 2.2 percent of non-citizens voted in 2010.
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So, I thought we were saying the liberal media weren't covering the election...
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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George K
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 24 2014, 05:25 PM
So, I thought we were saying the liberal media weren't covering the election...
No, I the article I linked said the Broadcast Media weren't covering it to the same extent they did in 2006.
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Axtremus
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Better to ask "Could voter suppression efforts decide the November election."
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jon-nyc
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Why not 'could voters determine the results of november's elections'?
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George K
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Oct 24 2014, 05:53 PM
Better to ask "Could voter suppression efforts decide the November election."
You're a supporter of voter ID, if I recall, aren't you?

This study is the first one that's not anecdotal and attempts to quantify the amount of illegal voting by non-citizens.

Do you have such evidence for "voter suppression?"

If so, please link.

Thanks.
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Also: Could gerrymandering decide November's election?

Could [qualifier] media bias decide November's election?

Could anonymous campaign donations decidw November's election?
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So you have nothing. Kthxbai.
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Mikhailoh
Oct 24 2014, 06:24 PM
So you have nothing. Kthxbai.
What I have is perspective and a good grasp of reality.
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George K
Oct 24 2014, 06:03 PM
You're a supporter of voter ID, if I recall, aren't you?
Just to clarify -- I am a supporter of "national ID."

My support for "voter ID" is conditioned upon the implementation of "national ID."
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Axtremus
Oct 24 2014, 06:22 PM
Also: Could gerrymandering decide November's election?
I don't know. I'll have to ask my Congressman:

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Better to ask "Could voter suppression efforts decide the November election."

Well?
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Could non-citizens decide the November election?


Why worry? It's not like Americans make very good choices. :lol:
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Oct 25 2014, 04:41 AM
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Could non-citizens decide the November election?


Why worry? It's not like Americans make very good choices. :lol:
That's because the choices are always crap.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 25 2014, 05:30 AM
John D'Oh
Oct 25 2014, 04:41 AM
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Could non-citizens decide the November election?


Why worry? It's not like Americans make very good choices. :lol:
That's because the choices are always crap.
Could non-citizens have decided the choices you'd have for the November election?
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Oct 25 2014, 05:58 AM
Aqua Letifer
Oct 25 2014, 05:30 AM
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Oct 25 2014, 04:41 AM
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Could non-citizens decide the November election?


Why worry? It's not like Americans make very good choices. :lol:
That's because the choices are always crap.
Could non-citizens have decided the choices you'd have for the November election?
Yes. They could decide the choices, whatever that means.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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:lol:
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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