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Controversial Owner Declares Her Store a ‘Muslim-Free’ Zone; Find Out Her Reasoning
Topic Started: Oct 22 2014, 06:39 PM (441 Views)
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Controversial.

http://www.tpnn.com/2014/09/29/controversial-owner-declares-her-store-a-muslim-free-zone-find-out-her-reasoning/

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Controversial Owner Declares Her Store a ‘Muslim-Free’ Zone; Find Out Her Reasoning

The Western world is at war with radical Islam. While we are constantly reassured by politicians that try to remain diplomatic that Islam is a religion of peace, we cannot deny that there are many within the Muslim faith that practice a brand of Islam committed to violence. To deny this fact is simply to deny realities of the world.

Of course, not all Muslims are violent and should not be treated as such. However, one store, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range in Hot Springs, Arkansas, has declared itself a “Muslim-free zone.”


Citing safety concerns and an extensive history of violent actions taken by Muslims in the U.S. and abroad, range owner Jan Morgan posted on her website a ten-point explanation for her decision to ban Muslims from her establishment and clarification as to her supposed legal reasoning.



While many might view the policy as extreme, it should be noted that the establishment appears to serve as a purely private establishment. Of course, this fact will likely not deter the radicalized Department of Justice from forcing Morgan to reverse her policies or otherwise face legal consequences as Obama’s DOJ has, in recent years, tried to force the owners of many establishments to violate their consciences by facilitating homosexual weddings.



Morgan claims that the ATF has asked her in the past to exercise judgment in refusing service to people who she feels might be unstable or a threat in general. This broad leeway, Morgan claims, offers her the authority to deny service broadly to Muslims. Bearingarms.com backs-up this assertion and notes,

“She brings up a very valid point that gun stores and ranges have both a legal and moral obligation to ensure the safety of their patrons. Because of this, they may refuse service to anyone they deem to be under the influence, mentally unstable, or otherwise a potential threat to themselves, or others. FFLs are afforded a great deal of latitude in this regard, as the federal government would rather err on the side of caution.”

Morgan offers her lengthy ten-point reasoning on her website:

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I officially declare my business, The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range, a MUSLIM FREE ZONE . . .


1) The Koran, which I have read and studied thoroughly and (which all muslims align themselves with), contains 109 verses commanding hate, murder and terror against all human beings who refuse to submit or convert to Islam. Read those verses of violence here.


2) My life has been threatened repeatedly by muslims who are angry that I have studied their koran and have, over the past two years, been exposing the vileness of the Koran and its murderous directives.


3) * The barbaric act of beheading an innocent American in Oklahoma by a muslim
* the Boston bombings(by muslims)
* the Fort Hood mass shooting (by a muslim) that killed 13 people and injured over 30 people
* and the murder of 3000 innocent people (by muslims) on 9/11

This is more than enough loss of life on my home soil at the hands of muslims to substantiate my position that muslims can and will follow the directives in their Koran and kill here at home.

4) Because the nature of my business involves firearms and shooting firearms in an enclosed environment, my patrons are not comfortable being around muslims who align themselves with a religion that clearly commands hate, murder, and violence against all non muslims. Therefore many of my patrons are uncomfortable around Muslims with guns. (can you blame them?)

5) My range rents and sells guns to my patrons. Why would I want to rent or sell a gun and hand ammunition to someone who aligns himself with a religion that commands him to kill me?

6) * Muslims, who belong to and, or, support ISIS, are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
* Muslims, who belong to or support AL Qaeda, are threatening to kill innocent Americans.
* Muslims who belong to or support HAMAS are threatening to kill innocent Americans.

See a common thread here?

7) I not only have the right to refuse service but a RESPONSIBILITY to provide a safe environment for people to shoot and train on firearms. I can and have turned people away if I sense they are under the influence of alcohol or mind altering drugs. I have a federal firearms license…

The ATF informed us when we received the license that if we feel any reason for concern about selling someone a firearm, even sense that something is not right about an individual, or we are concerned about that persons mental state, even if they pass a background check, we do not have to sell that person a gun.

In other words, a federal agency has given us this kind of discretion for service based on the nature of the business. I can and have turned people away if I sense an issue with their mental state. So… its difficult to imagine how the DOJ could have issues with this when ATF gave us this discretion.


8) I have no way of looking at Islam other than as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is undoubtedly the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.” Once again it is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a religion.

The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of religions, not theocracies. It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the state) government. In Islam religion and state are one.

We are a Nation governed by laws, or the law of the land the U.S. Constitution. We are not a Nation that is governed by religion, politicians or clerics.

How then, can anyone say that, the practice of Islam is protected by the U.S. Constitution?

The muslim brotherhood has a documented plan for the destruction of America from within, discovered by our own government during a raid of MB operatives in America. In addition, I am very cognizant of the civilization jihad under way in my country by American muslims. In a number of states Muslims, through our legal system, are trying to force us to accept Sharia Law over Constitutional law. I do not wish to do business with people who stand against the Constitution and are fighting to replace it.


9) Islam allows Muslims to kill their own children, (honor killing) if the behavior of those children embarrasses or dishonors the family name. ( did you know that dating outside of the faith is justification for murdering their daughters and this has already occurred on American soil?) Why would I want people (who believe its okay to murder their own children), be in the presence of other children? My patrons often bring their kids to the range to teach them to shoot. I am responsible for providing a safe environment for those children to learn gun safety and shooting sports.

10) In the 14 hundred year history of Islam, muslims have murdered over 270 million people. Not all muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists in the world right now are muslim. Since you can’t determine by visual assessment, which ones will kill you and which ones will not, I am going to go with the line of thought that ANY HUMAN BEING who would either knowingly or unknowingly support a “religion” that commands the murder of all people who refuse to submit or convert to that religion, is not someone I want to know or do business with. I hold adults accountable for the religion they align themselves with.

In summary, I not only have the right, but a responsibility to provide a safe environment for my customers. I do not believe my decision is religious discrimination because I do not classify islam as a religion.. It is a theocracy/terrorist organization that hides behind the mask of religion in order to achieve its mission of world domination.

People who shoot at my range come from all religious backgrounds… some are atheists… I do not care about their religious beliefs. I care about the safety of my customers who come to shoot here. The government allows businesses to ban me from entering their business with my gun because the property owner feels uncomfortable or wants to provide a “safe” environment for their patrons which is in clear violation of my 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, so… I should be ale to deny service to people on the same premise. Can my government really force me to invite someone who had threatened to kill me, into my home or business?

I will do whatever is necessary to provide a safe environment for my customers, even at the cost of the increased threats and legal problems this decision will likely provoke.

Jan Morgan- owner / The Gun Cave Indoor Shooting Range


The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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How is she going to tell whether somebody's a radical Muslim or just a redneck with a bad beard and nasty clothes? Let's face it, she's in Arkansas.
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John D'Oh
Oct 22 2014, 06:45 PM
How is she going to tell whether somebody's a radical Muslim or just a redneck hippie with a bad beard and nasty clothes? Let's face it, she's in Arkansas Portland.
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If Mohamedans can prohibit non Mohamedans from entering Mecca and Medina, then I see no reason this entrepreneur cannot prohibit Mohamedans from trespassing on her property. After all it's a gun range and if the Saracens trespass it's entirely
at their own peril.
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Oct 22 2014, 06:50 PM
If Mohamedans can prohibit non Mohamedans from entering Mecca and Medina, then I see no reason this entrepreneur cannot prohibit Mohamedans from trespassing on her property. After all it's a gun range and if the Saracens trespass it's entirely
at their own peril.
IOW, Muslims don't let non-muslims into their holiest places of worship, and apparently Americans are now doing the same.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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John's point is valid, how can she tell their religion?
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She doesn't have to according to ATF guidelines. She just has to have concerns. This is a rare example of adults being asked to use their best judgement.

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Thought this was interesting...

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) I have no way of looking at Islam other than as a theocracy, not a religion. Islam is undoubtedly the union of political, legal, and religious ideologies. In other words law, religion and state are forged together to form what Muslims refer to as “The Nation of Islam.” Once again it is given the sovereign qualities of a nation with clerics in the governing body and Sharia law all in one. This is a Theocracy, not a religion.

The US Constitution does not protect a theocracy. The 1st Amendment is very specific about protecting the rights of individuals from the government, as it concerns the practice of religions, not theocracies. It clearly differentiates between government and religion. Again protecting the individual’s religious beliefs and practices from (the state) government. In Islam religion and state are one.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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I suppose she could just ask. A devout muslim would probably never lie and say they're not.
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Uh, no. Quite the opposite.

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There are two forms of lying to non-believers that are permitted under certain circumstances, taqiyya and kitman. These circumstances are typically those that advance the cause Islam - in some cases by gaining the trust of non-believers in order to draw out their vulnerability and defeat them.


http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/011-taqiyya.htm

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Maybe they should be forced to wear armbands or little tattoos. That would make identification a lot easier.
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Huh. Well I guess I revert to my original point that she can't really tell.
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Oct 23 2014, 04:13 AM
Maybe they should be forced to wear armbands or little tattoos. That would make identification a lot easier.
Extend it to all religious people and you may be on to something. ;)
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Oct 23 2014, 04:13 AM
Huh. Well I guess I revert to my original point that she can't really tell.
It's really easy:

Muslim:

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Customer:

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I bet you feel safer already.
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Oct 23 2014, 04:13 AM
Maybe they should be forced to wear armbands or little tattoos. That would make identification a lot easier.
Yes, a nice, well done cross tattoo would work for me.

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John D'Oh
Oct 22 2014, 07:03 PM
AlbertaCrude
Oct 22 2014, 06:50 PM
If Mohamedans can prohibit non Mohamedans from entering Mecca and Medina, then I see no reason this entrepreneur cannot prohibit Mohamedans from trespassing on her property. After all it's a gun range and if the Saracens trespass it's entirely
at their own peril.
IOW, Muslims don't let non-muslims into their holiest places of worship, and apparently Americans are now doing the same.
Never thought of it that way, but yes there could be a corolation there.
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AlbertaCrude
Oct 23 2014, 06:25 AM
John D'Oh
Oct 22 2014, 07:03 PM
AlbertaCrude
Oct 22 2014, 06:50 PM
If Mohamedans can prohibit non Mohamedans from entering Mecca and Medina, then I see no reason this entrepreneur cannot prohibit Mohamedans from trespassing on her property. After all it's a gun range and if the Saracens trespass it's entirely
at their own peril.
IOW, Muslims don't let non-muslims into their holiest places of worship, and apparently Americans are now doing the same.
Never thought of it that way, but yes there could be a corolation there.
Ain't no correlation to it.

The average American spends 45 minutes a day buying shit, and 13 on religious activities. The folks who claim this to be a Christian nation are giving lip service.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Buying sh!t? You mean like groceries?

Oh, you meant buying things to MAKE sh!t. :lol2:
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Oct 23 2014, 06:59 AM
Buying sh!t? You mean like groceries?

Oh, you meant buying things to MAKE sh!t. :lol2:
Nope. Take groceries out and the number's still higher.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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In order for your dubious statistic to have any meaning, one needs to assess just what being a Christian means in terms of daily time devoted to it. A couple prayers? Not required. Acts of Christian charity? Can be done all day outside the 'religious' category and impossible to track. Living one's faith is not the same as going to church, and is, IMO, far more important.
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Is the implication that it is wrong to spend more time on buying **** than religion?
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Riley
Oct 23 2014, 07:05 AM
Is the implication that it is wrong to spend more time on buying **** than religion?
In "The World according to Aqua", apparently so...
Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments
and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism.

We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences.
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Oct 23 2014, 07:08 AM
Riley
Oct 23 2014, 07:05 AM
Is the implication that it is wrong to spend more time on buying **** than religion?
In "The World according to Aqua", apparently so...
No, don't put words in my mouth. The fact is that we spend a lot more time buying stuff than we do on religious activities. It's not wrong, but if you claim that your nation takes something seriously but spends about as much time on it per day as it does taking a crap, I'm going to question that claim.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Damn dude... who pissed in your Wheaties today? :tongue:
Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments
and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism.

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