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| There's an election coming up; Not that you'd know it from watching the networks | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Oct 22 2014, 04:32 PM (677 Views) | |
| George K | Oct 22 2014, 04:32 PM Post #1 |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Oct 22 2014, 04:34 PM Post #2 |
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Shocking. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| jon-nyc | Oct 22 2014, 05:00 PM Post #3 |
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Cheers
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Why did they exclude fox and cnn? Data mining? Nostalgia for the 70s? |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 22 2014, 05:09 PM Post #4 |
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You can't combat liberal media bias if you start criticizing Fox. |
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| George K | Oct 22 2014, 05:10 PM Post #5 |
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Because they chose not to?
Why do you think that ABC is ignoring the election? Zero stories? None? It was newsworthy 8 years ago, wasn't it? Why, I remember people who used to be here practically soiling themselves at that time. But your question is good. I wonder what the data for MSNBC and the others would show. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 22 2014, 05:11 PM Post #6 |
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MRC combats media bias in much the same way that Joseph Stalin combatted fascism. |
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| George K | Oct 22 2014, 05:13 PM Post #7 |
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Do you dispute their findings? If so, how? What do you have to show otherwise? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Oct 22 2014, 06:09 PM Post #8 |
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There's no real need to talk about it prior to November 2. http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/10/abc-news-announces-coverage-of-the-2014-midterm-election-across-all-programs-and-platforms/
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 22 2014, 06:35 PM Post #9 |
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My point is that they're as biased as the people they're accusing of being biased. They're also cherrypicking since they didn't appear to look at what Fox was doing, which would have made a good control. If Fox is being as lacklustre in it's reporting of the election as the liberal networks, then that would kind of spoil their bias accusations - they can say the media is crap, and let's face it, we all know that's true, but not necessarily biased. Unless of course you buy into the idea that Fox News is unbiased, as some have claimed. |
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| George K | Oct 22 2014, 06:40 PM Post #10 |
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They're cherrypicking only to the extent that they didn't, as Jon points out, include MSNBC, and CNN. What is your basis for saying they're biased? The fact that they "cherrypicked", or that you don't like what they found? The networks that you say are crappy covered the 2006 elections in a much more intense fashion than they are covering this one. Why do you think that is? The control is the 2006 election, not news sources they didn't look at. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 22 2014, 06:48 PM Post #11 |
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Seriously? Have you looked at the rest of the website? Incidentally, I'm not defending the American media, it's dreadful. But only complaining about how biased the liberal media is, and leaving Fox alone misses the real point - it's not the liberal bias that's the problem, it's the bias that's the problem. |
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| George K | Oct 22 2014, 06:55 PM Post #12 |
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Yep, and there's no question that they have a ... bias. However, much of it is backed up by numbers. But rather than saying "But FOX NEWWWWEEEEEESSS!", perhaps looking at what they say, (dare I say) objectively, and telling me what you find in error would be helpful. Put simply, have the three networks ignored that there's a mid term election coming up, particularly in view of their coverage eight years ago? By a factor of 16 to 1. 23 million people get their news from those three sources - far, far more than MSNBC, CNN or FOX. If no, then, we're done, because the MRC is lying. If so, then why do you think that's the case? Let me suggest this:
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 22 2014, 07:00 PM Post #13 |
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I'm not denying there's bias, and I'm sure as hell not carrying water for crappy American news networks. I get my news elsewhere as you know
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| John D'Oh | Oct 23 2014, 03:59 AM Post #14 |
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Incidentally, our local public radio station has been running an absolute ton of stuff on MA elections over the last few weeks - I've ended up putting on music instead due to the lengths of the reports. |
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| Riley | Oct 23 2014, 04:09 AM Post #15 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Why can't a media outlet be biased one way or the other? They aren't government owned or operated. Yet conservatives go on about this non issue more than abortion.
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| John D'Oh | Oct 23 2014, 04:19 AM Post #16 |
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You'd think they'd appreciate this aspect of the free market, wouldn't you? If you don't like the channel, change over to a better one. Or maybe they'd prefer the British system where you need a special license to watch TV. I can imagine that going down real well in Libertyville
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| Improviso | Oct 23 2014, 04:35 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I was channeling surfing yesterday and noticed that I didn't see CNN or HLN in the channel listings anymore. I have DishTV. A little research shows that Turner broadcasting and DishTV are in a contract dispute and Dish dropped the channels from their lineup. I see this as a good thing. Hang tough Dish.
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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| John D'Oh | Oct 23 2014, 04:44 AM Post #18 |
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200 channels, all crap. So much for free-market economics. |
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| JBryan | Oct 23 2014, 04:47 AM Post #19 |
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The media has always been biased. Back in the nineteenth century newspapers would often run their political affiliation on top with their masthead like The Quincy Whig or the Arkansas Democrat. Readers knew what they could expect up front. The really insidious thing about today's media is their pretense to being unbiased. It is a con job in effect telling people, "Here is the unbiased truth because we are unbiased" when they are anything but. It is dishonest even though they have become so transparently biased that they might as well call themselves the Democrat or the Republican as the case may be. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Jolly | Oct 23 2014, 05:41 AM Post #20 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Sometimes, y'all's inherit anti-Fox bias makes y'all dumber than a bag of hammers. George's graphic is illustrating the number of stories on BROADCAST NEWS. Fox, MSNBC, CNN, etc., are not broadcast news. They looked at the 3 majors. The only one left out (here's where you might have half a leg to stand on) is PBS. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| jon-nyc | Oct 23 2014, 06:01 AM Post #21 |
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Yeah, its still data mining. I mean, unless their real concern is what content is available to the small minority of TV watchers who only have an antenna. |
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| Copper | Oct 23 2014, 06:06 AM Post #22 |
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Yes, in the old days the 3 major networks made some effort to limit bias one way or the other and just report the news. Some viewers remember this and maybe still expect it. The remnants of these networks try to wrap themselves in this cloak of public service. This is of course, obviously no longer the case. It's probably better this way. But there is still a need for a reliable source of news. Somebody could make a lot of money by simply collecting and distributing unvarnished facts. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Oct 23 2014, 06:51 AM Post #23 |
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George, you can't. You just can't cherry-pick and be objective. The two are mutually exclusive. 1. Because statistics. 2. A parable: say you were conducting a study of the fall of the Nazi Regime, specifically what happened in June 1944. But instead of looking at the whole of Europe you focused only on the Eastern Front. You'd see that in that month, the Red Army tore Hitler's army a new one in Operation Bagration as they plowed 450 miles through Russia, Belarus, and then right up through Warsaw. In five weeks, Stalin advanced 450 miles west. It was a complete and total disaster for Hitler. You could draw all sorts of conclusions about how that made Hitler's downfall, none of them factually erroneous, but without context—that is, omitting the largest sea invasion in human history from your study—you cannot make sound conclusions. You can't understand what happened to Hitler's army in June 1944 without talking about both D-Day and the Eastern Front collapse. You can't talk about some media blackout of the upcoming elections without knowing what every major media outlet is doing. |
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| Jolly | Oct 23 2014, 07:03 AM Post #24 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Less than half of all Americans have cable nowadays, although several million others have satellite. But many Americans depend solely on broadcast tv or broadcast tv + web tv such as HULU. At the end of the day, viewership numbers for the network newscasts dwarf that of CNN or FOX News. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| Mikhailoh | Oct 23 2014, 07:04 AM Post #25 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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I prefer the network evening news myself, although I have cable. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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