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| Will Math Make You Richer? Fed Study Doesn't Prove It; HMC reference! | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Nov 3 2013, 01:29 PM (293 Views) | |
| brenda | Nov 3 2013, 01:29 PM Post #1 |
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http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-11-01/will-math-make-you-richer-fed-study-doesnt-prove-it
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“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.” ~A.A. Milne | |
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| Axtremus | Nov 3 2013, 01:51 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I share the view that Statistics has more practical applications than Calculus for most people. "Teach Statistics before Calculus" is a sentiment that I share. |
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| Horace | Nov 3 2013, 01:51 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Math is one of those subjects that requires some ability rather than just some effort, so it would stand to reason that people with ability will do better over the long haul. Actually knowing the math is probably not very relevant. But I agree with the HMC guy that statistics is more important and widely applicable than calculus. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Klaus | Nov 3 2013, 02:10 PM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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What exactly do you mean by "calculus" here? |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| Axtremus | Nov 3 2013, 02:49 PM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calculus |
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| Kincaid | Nov 3 2013, 03:08 PM Post #6 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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What the hell does this mean? He is not a real mathematician? Edited by Kincaid, Nov 3 2013, 03:09 PM.
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| Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006. | |
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| Copper | Nov 3 2013, 03:32 PM Post #7 |
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Shortstop
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Go to business school then you can hire all the mathematicians you want. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Nov 3 2013, 03:47 PM Post #8 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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I didn't know that successul now isn't just a polite euphemism for rich, but has attained the title of synonym. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Axtremus | Nov 3 2013, 04:45 PM Post #9 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Not just "now." It has been that way for a long time. |
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| jon-nyc | Nov 3 2013, 05:01 PM Post #10 |
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Cheers
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Yeah you did. |
| In my defense, I was left unsupervised. | |
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| Copper | Nov 3 2013, 06:09 PM Post #11 |
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Shortstop
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After Mr. Obama makes us all equal how will we know who is successful? |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Mikhailoh | Nov 3 2013, 06:21 PM Post #12 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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It won't matter because no one will be. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Klaus | Nov 4 2013, 03:14 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The article says that people don't need to know that "the derivative of cos(x) is -sin(x)". But people won't need to know what a Markov process or a regression analysis is, either. The reason why graduates in mathematics are highly sought after is usually not the math skills they have but the skills they have that make them understand math skills. This "meta skill" is usually called abstraction. To me this suggests that pupils should predominantly learn branches of mathematics that maximize that skill. The best candidates for that are from algebra, such as abstract and universal algebra, topology, or category theory. The first thing we should ban from the math class room are numbers. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| John D'Oh | Nov 4 2013, 05:20 AM Post #14 |
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MAMIL
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The successful people will be the ones who don't drone on and on about Obama, regardless of the topic being discussed? |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Copper | Nov 4 2013, 05:55 AM Post #15 |
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Shortstop
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Not until they learn to use a question mark. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Nov 4 2013, 05:55 AM Post #16 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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For vain materialists like yourself maybe. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Mikhailoh | Nov 4 2013, 06:16 AM Post #17 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Financial security is just one part of success. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| VPG | Nov 4 2013, 07:29 AM Post #18 |
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Pisa-Carp
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You know? The only time I understand anything Klaus say's is when he talks about food............or |
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I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK! "People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look." Ronald Reagan, Inaugural, 1971 | |
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| Axtremus | Nov 4 2013, 08:10 AM Post #19 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Ooohh, very smooth using the term "financial security" instead of the word "rich" to partially define "success."
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| Aqua Letifer | Nov 4 2013, 08:40 AM Post #20 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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Wouldn't expect you to know the difference. |
| I cite irreconcilable differences. | |
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| Axtremus | Nov 4 2013, 08:49 AM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It's just going to get even more confusing when we get to "financial independence" and "material abundance." And get ready to toast (or bug out) when we get to "post-scarcity." |
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| brenda | Nov 4 2013, 08:54 AM Post #22 |
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Klaus gets it. Of course, he's a math dude.
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“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.” ~A.A. Milne | |
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