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Annie Speaks
Topic Started: Oct 10 2013, 06:49 AM (504 Views)
Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
DEMOCRATS TO AMERICA: WE OWN THE GOVERNMENT!

Anne Coulter



In the current fight over the government shutdown, Republicans are simply representing the views of the American people.

Americans didn't ask for Obamacare, they don't want it, but now their insurance premiums are going through the roof, their doctors aren't accepting it, and their employers are moving them into part-time work -- or firing them -- to avoid the law's mandates.

Contrary to Obama's promises, it turns out: You can't keep your doctor, you can't keep your insurance -- you can't even keep your job. In other words, it's a typical government program, but this one wrecks your health care.

Also, the president did raise taxes on the middle class in defiance of his well-worn campaign promise not to. Indeed, Obamacare is the largest tax hike in U.S. history.

Among the other changes effected by this law are:

-- Obamacare will allow insurers to charge 50 percent higher premiums for smokers, but prohibits insurers from increasing premiums for those with HIV/AIDS.

-- Nationally, Obamacare will increase men's individual insurance premiums by an average of 99 percent and women's by 62 percent. In North Carolina, for example, individual insurance premiums will triple for women and quadruple for men.

-- Health plans valued at $27,500 or more for a family of four will be taxed at a rate of 40 percent.

-- No doctors who went to an American medical school will be accepting Obamacare.

-- A 62-year-old man earning $46,000 a year is entitled to a $7,836 government tax credit to buy health insurance. But if he earns an extra $22 in income, he loses the entire $7,836 credit. He will have more take-home pay by earning $46,000 than if he earns $55,000. (If he's lucky, he already works for one of the companies forced by Obamacare to reduce employees' hours!)

-- Merely to be eligible for millions of dollars in grants from the federal government under Obamacare, education and training programs are required to meet racial, ethnic, gender, linguistic and sexual orientation quotas. That's going to make health care MUCH better!


-- Obamacare is turning America into a part-time nation. According to a recent report by economist John Lott, 97 percent of all jobs added to the economy so far this year have been part-time jobs. Ninety-seven percent!

-- Obamacare is such a disaster that the people who wrote it refuse to live under it themselves. That's right, Congress won a waiver from Obamacare.

Responding to the people's will, House Republicans first voted to fund all of government -- except Obamacare. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

Then the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but merely delay the implementation of Obamacare for one year. Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it.

Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.

Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.

A longtime Democratic operative, Karen Finney, explained the Democrats' intransigence on MSNBC to a delighted Joan Walsh (aka the most easily fooled person on TV) by comparing House Republicans to a teenager trying to borrow his mother's car. "No, I'm not negotiating!" Mother says. "It's MY CAR!"

This wasn't a stupid slip of the tongue that other Democrats quickly rejected. Finney had used the exact same metaphor to a panel of highly agreeable MSNBC guests the day before. (MSNBC books no other kind of guest.)

The left thinks the government is their car and the people's representatives are obstreperous teenagers trying to borrow the government. Which belongs to Democrats.

That's not how the Constitution views the House of Representatives. To the contrary, the House is considered most reflective of the people's will because its members are elected every two years.

As a matter of fact, the Republicans who mistakenly assume they have something to do with running the government represent most of the people who pay taxes to run it. So it's more like a teenager who is making the car payments, maintaining the car insurance and taking responsibility for registering the car being told: "It's not your car."

But the Democrats refuse to even negotiate. It's their government -- and if you Republicans think you're going out dressed like that, you've got another thing coming! Needless to say, they absolutely will not consider the Republicans' demand that Democrats merely live under Obamacare themselves.

Instead, Democrats say "the Koch brothers" are behind the effort to defund Obamacare.

They say Republicans are trying to "burn the whole house down" (Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz); "have lost their minds" (Sen. Harry Reid); are trying to negotiate "with a bomb strapped to their chest" (senior White House adviser Dan Pfeiffer); are "legislative arsonists" (Rep. Nancy Pelosi); and are engaging in "blatant extortion" (White House press secretary Jay Carney).

The MSNBC crowd calls Republicans "arsonists" every 15 minutes. They ought to check with fellow MSNBC host Al Sharpton. He knows his arsonists! In 1995, Sharpton whipped up a mob outside the Jewish-owned Freddy's Fashion Mart with an anti-Semitic speech. Sometime later, a member of the mob torched the store, killing seven Hispanic employees.

Every single Democrat in the country uses the exact same talking point: We "refuse to negotiate with a gun being held to our head."

Which means the Democrats will not negotiate at all -- not now, not ever. House Republicans have already passed three-dozen bills defunding, or otherwise modifying, Obamacare. Senate Democrats and liberal commentators had a good laugh at Republicans for passing them.

Now they're paying attention!

If you are in the minority of Americans not already unalterably opposed to Obamacare, keep in mind that the only reason the government is shut down right now is that Democrats refuse to fund the government if they are required to live under Obamacare.

That's how good it is!
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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If the Democrats have lost Ann Coulter, there's nothing left for them.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Jolly
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Geaux Tigers!
Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.

Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.
The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros
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Aqua Letifer
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ZOOOOOM!
I like her use of capital letters and exclamation points.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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The fact that some people actually take this anorexic Valkyrie seriously never ceases to amaze me.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Sure everyone loves exclamation points. They are probably the most exciting punctuation.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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She'd be better off eating more sausage. It would probably make her less excitable and prone to unnecessary exclamation and capitalisation. A big enough one might stop her talking altogether.
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HOLY CARP!!!
Aqua Letifer
Oct 10 2013, 07:03 AM
I like her use of capital letters and exclamation points.
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Yeah, that's a hoot.
Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006.
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Yeah, when you can't beat someone's argument, ridicule her.
I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK!


"People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look."
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Oct 10 2013, 07:56 AM
Yeah, when you can't beat someone's argument, ridicule her.
It's tiring to even engage in serious discussion about Anne Coulter. Beating her argument is an obvious waste of time. But you asked for it, so here it is:

You know she's not a conservative, right? That's not how she makes her living. She's a professional pot-stirrer. Her job is to make you hate Democrats and liberals.

I don't make it a point to listen to anyone who wants me to hate somebody. You can do as you wish.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Oct 10 2013, 08:07 AM
You know she's not a conservative, right? That's not how she makes her living. She's a professional pot-stirrer. Her job is to make you hate Democrats and liberals.
Actually, her job is making money from people who already hate liberals, and are guillible enough to buy books confirming what they already believe.

Obviously, the more people she can convince to hate liberals in her articles, the more books she sells, and the more money she makes.
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And by the way, this "the other side is always wrong, they're doing damage to the country" mentality is exactly why we're in the midst of a government shutdown. Following the Anne Coulter mentality leads to the system's breakdown.

But hey, let's keep blaming Democrats for everything. That'll get people back to work pronto. Blame fixes everything.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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On an unrelated topic, since we're about to get a new Doctor Who, can I just take this opportunity to say that

'Bow ties are NOT cool'

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What the f*ck does he look like, and furthermore when did he earn his wings?
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Jolly
Oct 10 2013, 07:01 AM
Finally, the Republicans voted to fully fund the government, but added a requirement that everyone live under Obamacare. No more special waivers for Congress and their staff, and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.

Obama refused to negotiate and Senate Democrats refused to pass it. So as you can see, Republicans are the big holdup here.
If this be the truth, it sounds totally reasonable to me.

Why won't the Dems agree?
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and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.


Because it allowed for waivers for big business and individuals, which kind of defies the point of the whole thing.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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HOLY CARP!!!
I don't know very much about ObamaCare or whether it's good or bad, but it seems that a majority of Americans has decided by democratic votes that they want ObamaCare. Regardless of the merits of that program, it seems to be a pill that its opponent must swallow if they want to be democrats.
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Klaus
Oct 10 2013, 08:36 AM
I don't know very much about ObamaCare or whether it's good or bad, but it seems that a majority of Americans has decided by democratic votes that they want ObamaCare. Regardless of the merits of that program, it seems to be a pill that its opponent must swallow if they want to be democrats.
I don't think anybody really like Obamacare - people who support universal healthcare see it as an overly complicated and inefficient kludge.

The real problem seems be that a sizeable minority of people really, really hate it, beyond the realms of logic to the point of shouting in the street and frothing at the mouth. And, of course, the GOP want their votes. What the GOP don't seem to get is that by pandering to the frothers and the shouters they're in real danger of losing normal conservatives and fence-sitters.
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
I think if anyone truly hates it it is because it is a HUGE increase in government power over people' private lives and the size of government.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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Oct 10 2013, 08:35 AM
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and no waivers for big business without the same waivers for individuals.


Because it allowed for waivers for big business and individuals, which kind of defies the point of the whole thing.
So...let's all agree on no waivers and pass a budget!
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Mikhailoh
Oct 10 2013, 09:08 AM
I think if anyone truly hates it it is because it is a HUGE increase in government power over people' private lives and the size of government.
And that is not hard to understand.
And as far as Ms Coulter, if what she
say's is true, who cares if she is a
skinny bitch?
Secondly, I'd do her. Tell me you
wouldn't.
I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK!


"People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look."
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Mikhailoh
Oct 10 2013, 09:08 AM
I think if anyone truly hates it it is because it is a HUGE increase in government power over people' private lives and the size of government.
That argument would have some merit if the people promoting it were in any way consistent with their beliefs.

The very same people who are all for the federal government's reading of our e-mails, our social media posts and profiles, of listening to our phone calls without a warrant, of secret courts deciding on these matters, now cry "personal liberty" when rallying against Obamacare. It's ridiculous.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Mikhailoh
Oct 10 2013, 09:08 AM
I think if anyone truly hates it it is because it is a HUGE increase in government power over people' private lives and the size of government.
Generally, people who genuinely hate have lost the plot, as well as their sense of proportion. It's generally not about what they hate so much as about them blaming other people for their own shortcomings and problems.

Or, in the words of the prophet....

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Jolly
Oct 10 2013, 09:23 AM
So...let's all agree on no waivers and pass a budget!
Tell that to your Republicans holding up the show. Having no waivers is what the Democrats have wanted all along.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Oct 10 2013, 09:25 AM
Secondly, I'd do her. Tell me you
wouldn't.
Not without duct tape.
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Oct 10 2013, 09:27 AM
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Oct 10 2013, 09:25 AM
Secondly, I'd do her. Tell me you
wouldn't.
Not without duct tape.
Interesting, would you P M me instructions for use?
I'M NOT YELLING.........I'M ITALIAN...........THAT'S HOW WE TALK!


"People say that we're in a time when there are no heroes, they just don't know where to look."
Ronald Reagan, Inaugural, 1971

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