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Furlough
Topic Started: Oct 1 2013, 04:26 AM (663 Views)
Piano*Dad
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So, if told (asked) to work without pay, for how long would you comply?

For many people this is no longer a hypothetical.
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Piano*Dad
Oct 1 2013, 04:26 AM
So, if told (asked) to work without pay, for how long would you comply?

For many people this is no longer a hypothetical.
Not a single minute.

That's the only reason I work.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Piano*Dad
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Yet if you left your job in a huff you might move into immediate unemployment, or perhaps a lower pay situation permanently, when if you had stayed on the job without pay you would have been rewarded with full back pay a few days later. Lots of risk-reward tradeoffs.
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jon-nyc
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Historically (IIRC) those who kept working through shutdowns got made whole later, so I suppose if I needed the money or had some other compulsion to keep at it (say I like my job) I'd slog away. If not, I'd take the excuse for some extra vacation, albeit unpaid.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Copper
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When I worked downtown with federal employees the joke was that they pretended to work and the government pretended to pay them. That of course has all changed and now they get pretty good pay.

The practice in the past has been to pay them after a shutdown. As long as this practice continues I would work.

If they ever really don't pay, then I expect people would really not work.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Piano*Dad
Oct 1 2013, 05:41 AM
Yet if you left your job in a huff you might move into immediate unemployment, or perhaps a lower pay situation permanently, when if you had stayed on the job without pay you would have been rewarded with full back pay a few days later. Lots of risk-reward tradeoffs.
Not for me.

I am in a low-pay situation permanently. The only difference between what I'm doing now and ditch-digging is that if you took enough psychoactive drugs in a certain amount of time, my current job might seem related to my field of study.

Also, I'm not in a position to be able to afford riding out that kind of wait. Plus my employer has a social disorder of some kind.

I have zero loyalty for the people for whom I work. None. And I need to pay bills. They don't pay me and I walk right then and there.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Walk anyway, and move to Riga or something.

Henry Miller redux.


Come on, you know you want to.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Aqua Letifer
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I think about bugging out a lot these days.



It'd take about a day to get going.
I cite irreconcilable differences.
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Copper
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http://www.cnn.com/2013/09/30/politics/shutdown-congress-staff-paid/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

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Congress, but not staff, still gets paid -- it's in the Constitution
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Aqua Letifer
Oct 1 2013, 05:57 AM
I think about bugging out a lot these days.



It'd take about a day to get going.
Just leave a forwarding address. If I ever hit the lottery I will be your patron.
Kincaid - disgusted Republican Partisan since 2006.
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brenda
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Piano*Dad
Oct 1 2013, 04:26 AM
So, if told (asked) to work without pay, for how long would you comply?

For many people this is no longer a hypothetical.
Definitely not a hypothetical. Hubby just had a furlough.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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Mikhailoh
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Depends on the background. If I was a government worker? Not a chance.
Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball
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What is this talk of back pay? Unpaid time off is what we're really talking about, not about odds of getting paid for the furlough. I don't consider it realistic to assume there is any chance of payment for the furlough time.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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Sorry, PD, I misread your OP. You're asking about working without pay. To me, a furlough is time off without pay.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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jon-nyc
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Brenda does your hubby work for the federal government? Or did he have a furlough from a private employer?
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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brenda
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Private. I'm sure PD is referring to the government employees in the shut down. He is correct that it is no longer hypothetical, but I took the meaning to include all cases of furlough, and in our case it is a reality.
Edited by brenda, Oct 1 2013, 09:42 AM.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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jon-nyc
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Man, that sucks. I hope it ends soon, Brenda.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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jon-nyc
Oct 1 2013, 09:46 AM
Man, that sucks. I hope it ends soon, Brenda.
It's already done. It came at a bad time, with daughter's initial college expenses and the travel costs, but it's over now. The upside was the time off to take her to college.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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jon-nyc
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Glad it's behind you.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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jon-nyc
Oct 1 2013, 10:22 AM
Glad it's behind you.
Thanks! We are, too.
“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.”
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Oct 1 2013, 09:58 AM
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:lol2:

Oh Hell that's been done already by our leaders.
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True, Vince.



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I am a federal employee and am the only IT person in an office of 70 people. With that said, I was deemed "nonessential" and am part of the furloughed crew. This time of the month is a very busy time for me as I am tasked to run a multitude of month end reports for HQ. I have mulled this over and plan to go in today anyways and get this work done. I realize that I'm not getting paid for it, but I also realize there is a good chance that the budget gets signed and that we will be paid for not working the days we are furloughed. So I'm going in.
"Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known."
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AlbertaCrude
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Just show up for work on time. Don't need to accomplish anything while you're there but just show up on time. Look busy but at most work to rule. Be relaxed about everything. Go home the moment your shift ends. Anything left undone can wait until tomorrow when you show up again.
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