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| WEILL Breathing to lower BP - or whatever ails you; (stress, anyhow) | |
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| Amanda | Jan 30 2013, 08:29 PM Post #1 |
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Weill says it only works when used several times daily and regularly. In fact, though, you can also lower your BP on the spot. It's an excellent stress reliever too - a great way to deal with momentary anxiety. That includes: mid-night waking to help fall back asleep, public speaking, piano recitals, before difficult phone calls, when food temptation strikes - you name it. It puts control back in your hands - and without a pill-bottle. I especially like that one gets marked results, even with only a few minutes invested. Yes, of course, it's much better if it IS frequent and regular. (At least, I assume so - haven't yet gotten that religious about it ).Meanwhile, it's an absolutely brilliant technique for stressful moments as cited - and a helluva a lot better than drugs. Give it a shot, before relying on them. It can't hurt and it's a truly powerful tool to have in your arsenal of self-management techniques. No prescription needed. My skeptical son has become a convert too. (Check your BP after doing the breathing for even a few minutes and prove it to yourself). http://www.drweil.com/drw/u/VDR00112/The-4-7-8-Breath-Benefits-and-Demonstration.html |
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[size=5] We should tolerate eccentricity in others, almost to the point of lunacy, provided no one else is harmed.[/size] "Daily Telegraph", London July 27 2005 | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 31 2013, 09:02 AM Post #2 |
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I really prefer benzos. Conazepam specifically. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Amanda | Jan 31 2013, 11:17 AM Post #3 |
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I've taken Clonazepam (Klonopin) PRN for over 20 years. First, it does nothing for BP and second (one of it's worst defects), it takes a LONG time to kick in. As in an hour. If you are up against an immediate stressful demand, it's kind of a dead loss. It's also extremely, extremely addictive. (As are all benzos). That's why they are now handled with kid gloves by physicians. Medicare won't even pay for them. Trying to get off klonopin can lead to "akathisia" (feeling of wanting to crawl out of your skin) - one of THE worst med side effects out there. Sudden changes in dosage can also lead to seizures, including fatal status epilepticus. I personally know of a woman who died of this, caused by klonopin carelessness. Naturally, there is a lot of variation in responses, but most psychiatrists agree it's much more dangerous than it appears. For me, though, the worst drawback is the slowness of response. The WEILL breathing technique is almost the opposite in this regard. |
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[size=5] We should tolerate eccentricity in others, almost to the point of lunacy, provided no one else is harmed.[/size] "Daily Telegraph", London July 27 2005 | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 31 2013, 12:25 PM Post #4 |
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The onset of clonazepam is slow by design - it is part of what makes it much *less* addictive than some other benzos - though it can be habit forming. This is because benzos become habit forming when used regularly, and slow-onset benzos are less likely to be used "in a pinch" as a bandaid. They are therefore less commonly relied upon - whereas Xanax or Valium can get someone where they want to be much faster, and are thus abused more frequently. If you need a sudden onset, there are plenty in the benzodiazepine family that suit the purpose well. I've dealt with heft anxiety in my life, and have only medicated for it a handful of times. More importantly, I've dealt with anxiety and physical discomfort due to severe neuropathy after years of dialysis, and such a neurological anxiety is best treated chemically. Clonazepam is great in this regard, as it can be dosed low enough to be used occasionally without much risk, lasts a long time (through the night), and sets on slowly. It's a great sleep inducer for this reason, and that's why I've always had it around. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Amanda | Jan 31 2013, 12:39 PM Post #5 |
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It all depends on what one needs the med for. Clearly I wouldn't have used it for so long if I weren't getting something out of it. It's THE classic for panic disorder and is also an anti-convulsant. (I'm sure you know all this, just adding it for anyone not acquainted). I take Valium occasionally for sleep - Klonopin does almost nothing for me in that regard (and gives me a nasty hangover) . Valium has SUCH a long half life, though. . But the main thing for me (why I wrote in) was to call members attention to the WEILL breathing technique (which has altogether different benefits). I'd never think of it as substituting for benzos, as needed. OTOH I strongly urge you and anyone to learn it, regardless of other problems, simply because short term or long, it is absolutely remarkable. To get major effects (e.g., steady lowering of BP), of course, one needs to invest in a bit more regular practice. What's great, though, is that even occasionally, it's powerful. I really like the sense of having a tool that doesn't come in a bottle. Controlling breathing (and Weill's method is kind of a distillation of all breathing techniques) is, as he says, THE single-most powerful way to master stress. For recovering addicts (who aren't allowed to take psychotropic drugs), it can be a life-line. It's so easy to learn, though, its' silly not to give it a try. It complements anything Edited by Amanda, Jan 31 2013, 12:58 PM.
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