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| Star Notre Dame linebacker's girlfriend only a memory now. | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jan 16 2013, 06:25 PM (899 Views) | |
| Horace | Jan 16 2013, 06:25 PM Post #1 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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She had cancer. ![]() And also she was a complete fiction. ![]() http://deadspin.com/5976517/manti-teos-dead-girlfriend-the-most-heartbreaking-and-inspirational-story-of-the-college-football-season-is-a-hoax He's claiming now that his fictitious girlfriend was a hoax perpetrated against him that he completely believed. Sounds plausible, and I can't imagine he'd lie. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 16 2013, 06:34 PM Post #2 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Worst ever:
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 16 2013, 06:45 PM Post #3 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Wow - I just read the entire post. Holy smokes - It's like Inception - I have no idea what to believe now. Did the top fall over or not?! |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Jolly | Jan 16 2013, 07:10 PM Post #4 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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She may have existed...but she was born in the same hospital as Obama and her records have yet to be found... |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 16 2013, 07:19 PM Post #5 |
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LOL Never fear, I'm sure Trump's on the case. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 17 2013, 09:31 AM Post #6 |
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Apparantly he received a call from her in December, three months after she died? At that point he went to Notre Dame officials, and they investigated the hell out of this whole thing, but kept it under wraps until after the Championship Game. It sounds to me like here's a guy that honestly got duped, he made a few "embellishments", and by the time he realized that something was wrong with the whole story, it was already too deep. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 17 2013, 11:40 AM Post #7 |
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I think that's possible - though unlikely. After reading the article, he's either pretty slow, and gullible, and so excited by the chance to be liked by a girl, that he falls head over heels in love without ever meeting her (none of which is consistent with his observable nature as an athlete), OR he was in on it. His familial connection to the people supposedly duping him, and his choice not to attend her funeral are the two biggies for me that I can't get around. "I didn't go to her funeral because she wanted me to play football instead" doesn't fly with me. It is possible though - I'll concede that. Edited by KlavierBauer, Jan 17 2013, 12:49 PM.
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Horace | Jan 17 2013, 12:27 PM Post #8 |
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Nowhere in the story does it mention a female accomplice. For Te'o not to be in on this, it would have taken a female to field his daily and lengthy phone calls - where she pretended to be sick with cancer in the hospital for weeks or months at a time and he called her there every night and fell asleep with the phone to his ear. I would bet anything that Te'o was in on this for the stuff designed to extract sympathy from the press and public. Though I suppose it may have started as a hoax, way back when. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jan 17 2013, 12:29 PM Post #9 |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 17 2013, 01:10 PM Post #10 |
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Not in this story, but in others they've mentioned how the whole thing started going south in December when he got an accidental phone call from deceased girlfriend, then he went to Notre Dame officials realizing something was wrong. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/college/ct-met-manti-teo-hoax-notre-dame-20130117,0,5949958.story |
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 17 2013, 01:30 PM Post #11 |
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I feel bad for the girl who's picture was stolen and used. While Te'o has no criminal recourse against the people that did this, I would believe that she could press charges. |
| The problem with having an open mind is that people keep trying to put things in it. | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 17 2013, 01:56 PM Post #12 |
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Actually he does - the same rule that would allow for this is what the Feds were using to prosecute Swartz for his 13 felony convictions. Misuse of Twitters ToS (which a fake account is...) *can* be a felony conviction, if the Feds decide to call it "hacking." |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Newpianoplayer | Jan 17 2013, 02:06 PM Post #13 |
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Senior Carp
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Great movie prep |
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| Copper | Jan 17 2013, 02:14 PM Post #14 |
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Shortstop
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There were a number of options surrounding this being discussed on ESPN today. Was he in on it? If so his value in the upcoming draft goes way down. Lots of teams won't touch him. If not, maybe his value still drops but not as much. Being gullible isn't a crime but it is part of the picture. Either his value has probably dropped there may be some civil recourse available from that. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Horace | Jan 17 2013, 05:52 PM Post #15 |
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Until we find a female accomplice or Te'o at least produces some proof that his daily phone calls occurred (easily available through cell phone records), I'll consider it next to impossible that there was a real woman at the other end of this hoax. The means to at least video chat are easy and ubiquitous these days. To never have once done so through a year-long relationship beggars all belief. It's fact that Te'o has consistently lied about her, how they met, and whether they've ever seen each other in person. Again, I would bet anything he's been in on it virtually from the start, even if it was originally a "prank" on him. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Horace | Jan 17 2013, 05:55 PM Post #16 |
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He has financial motivation to produce some easy proof at least that he made the phone calls with this other person that he claims to have made. My prediction is that he'll never produce such proof. And I predict that no female accomplice in the hoax will ever (credibly) come to light. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| OperaTenor | Jan 17 2013, 05:59 PM Post #17 |
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Pisa-Carp
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| Luke's Dad | Jan 17 2013, 06:03 PM Post #18 |
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Then why would he go to Notre Dame in December and have them investigate this? |
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| Horace | Jan 17 2013, 06:09 PM Post #19 |
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Because he obtained some information that led him to believe the whole thing was going to blow up anyway, so he needed to try to get out in front of it. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| ivorythumper | Jan 17 2013, 07:12 PM Post #20 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Wow. People falling in love with someone who doesn't exist when they should have seen all the signs of fraud. It's just like the election. -Patrick Arcbold. |
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| Axtremus | Jan 17 2013, 07:29 PM Post #21 |
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An hypothesis I read from CHAS@WTF is that perhaps Mr. Te'o is a closet homosexual who tried to conceal his orientation by perpetuating the hoax that he has a girlfriend. I just figure this hypothesis is sufficiently interesting to merit a mention here. |
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| KlavierBauer | Jan 17 2013, 07:38 PM Post #22 |
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Ax: I initially wondered if the close "family friend" who perpetuated the hoax, and owned the twitter accounts of the girl was really Te'o's "DL" partner. It would be consistent with several things, especially being an LDS member, and facing perhaps more strict rules (while still possibly very loving, less accepting) or condemnation. Looking at it more though, I'm not sure that's the easiest explanation. I think most likely is that he was pranked, let it go too far, got in on it, saw it was a bad idea and tried to distance himself. All he has to do is produce his cell phone records and his douche coefficient drops drastically - at which point he may still be the hottest thing on the block come draft time. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| 1hp | Jan 17 2013, 08:01 PM Post #23 |
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No way a guy who has 10x the normal testosterone levels of normal guys would go 3 years without trying to drive to California to see this girlfriend. He was in on the hoax. |
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| Horace | Jan 18 2013, 01:25 AM Post #24 |
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I very much like this theory. One of my first reactions to the idea that it was a "prank" played on Te'o by a male friend of his was that the male friend is a closeted homosexual - but I didn't think that was pertinent so I didn't mention it. But it's very pertinent if Te'o himself is gay - it makes the idea that he was in on it from the start plausible and understandable. My best friend growing up, as it turns out, is gay. I didn't know. He was (and still is) closeted. We were roommates through our late 20s and mutual friends would sometimes ask me if he was gay. I didn't think so - I remembered when we were adolescents that he was as fascinated by boobies in R rated movies as I was. Or at least I thought so. But he didn't have many girlfriends as he got older and the ones he had, even the beautiful sexy ones, he used viagra. In his 20s. He visited me 4 years ago and while we stayed together in a 2-bed hotel room in San Francisco (heh) he invited me to sleep with him in his bed. I laughed it off and never mentioned it again, but I got it. I didn't really mind, it was what it was. But it was a bit weird and a few months later I canceled plans we'd had to travel in a group of high school friends to Ireland. I was buying a house and couldn't go, you see. In retrospect, I figure that's probably what did it. Several months later I had a low point, where a bunch of people were conspiring to try to make me feel like a sh!tty human being (I posted about it here, though not in specifics - had nothing to do with TNCR) and during that I called him, to ask what people really thought of me. I still thought we were friends, and I figured he'd know. He turned vicious and unloaded every negative thing he'd ever thought about me - sensing my openness to criticism, he wanted to ejaculate some stuff he'd apparently been holding in for a very long time. (Humans are the only living creatures who think it's wrong to attack something when it's weak - or maybe the only living creatures who pretend to think so.) The way he did it was interesting to me - he would describe me by comparing me unfavorably to this other guy he'd befriended who was so much better than me - as a human being. The other guy was someone I had met in the last couple years I was in that city. He was the roommate after me. He had the most obviously homosexual mannerisms I'd ever seen. I found him entirely uninteresting, though that had nothing to do with his mannerisms. So how does this relate to the Manti Te'o thing. Because my old friend had become a flake in his adulthood - there was just no substance behind anything he said. It's why I distanced myself from him to begin with. Not to get too armchair psychologist about it but it strikes me that maybe because his whole life had been built on deception - always hiding his proclivities - he became used to being deceptive and that became his frame of reference for moral decisions regarding honesty. Maybe Te'o is like that too. Maybe he's spent his formative years hiding behind lies, and maybe that's desensitized him to lies. At least he's not necessarily a sociopath. He might just have learned this behavior as a survival skill. |
| As a good person, I implore you to do as I, a good person, do. Be good. Do NOT be bad. If you see bad, end bad. End it in yourself, and end it in others. By any means necessary, the good must conquer the bad. Good people know this. Do you know this? Are you good? | |
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| Copper | Jan 18 2013, 10:55 AM Post #25 |
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http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/8857057/friend-says-ronaiah-tuiasosopo-confessed-manti-teo-girlfriend-hoax
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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