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| Romney Speech at Fund Raiser; leaked video recording | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Sep 17 2012, 06:56 PM (1,734 Views) | |
| Dave Spelvin | Sep 18 2012, 11:19 AM Post #51 |
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Fulla-Carp
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I heartily agree with Rush Limbaugh. Now is the time for a teaching moment. This should be an easy sell. We just to have it explained to us, then we will all be conservative. I'm sure Romney is up to the challenge. |
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| Larry | Sep 18 2012, 11:33 AM Post #52 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Ok Dave, time to come clean. Just what kind of drugs are you on? |
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| Axtremus | Sep 18 2012, 11:35 AM Post #53 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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No drugs ... Dave has just been reading more of my posts lately.
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| George K | Sep 18 2012, 11:38 AM Post #54 |
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Finally
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He's not on drugs, he's just bitterly clinging to his vision from 2008. |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Larry | Sep 18 2012, 11:39 AM Post #55 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Anyone who could make the statement Dave made with a straight face isn't just a Koolaid drinker, they've grown gills. |
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| Red Rice | Sep 18 2012, 11:41 AM Post #56 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That explains it!
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Civilisation, I vaguely realized then - and subsequent observation has confirmed the view - could not progress that way. It must have a greater guiding principle to survive. To treat it as a carcase off which each man tears as much as he can for himself, is to stand convicted a brute, fit for nothing better than a jungle existence, which is a death-struggle, leading nowhither. I did not believe that was the human destiny, for Man individually was sane and reasonable, only collectively a fool. I hope the gunner of that Hun two-seater shot him clean, bullet to heart, and that his plane, on fire, fell like a meteor through the sky he loved. Since he had to end, I hope he ended so. But, oh, the waste! The loss! - Cecil Lewis | |
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| Dave Spelvin | Sep 18 2012, 12:03 PM Post #57 |
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Fulla-Carp
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It's just a mental disease. Nothing to see here. |
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| Jolly | Sep 18 2012, 05:58 PM Post #58 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Exactly. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| The 89th Key | Sep 18 2012, 06:26 PM Post #59 |
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When I first heard about this clip last night, my first reaction was "So what?" I couldn't believe it was a big story when I woke up today (well, I can believe it given the media bias), but still.... he isn't worried about the 47% who already are voting for Obama. So what? Obama's not worrying about the 40+% voting for Romney either... both are competing for that middle 5-10%. Half of the country pays no income taxes and 47% receives some sort of government assistance. So what? That's a true statement, although it's not the SAME 47% that vote for Obama, I'd wager there is likely a higher number of Obama supporters who see nothing wrong with those stats compared to Romney's camp and that's what he was obviously getting at. Either way...... I'll put it this way. Not the most politically correct statement, but he was speaking off the cuff to supporters, and I kept waiting for the "I can't believe he said that!" moment as I watched the video, and that moment never really came. |
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| George K | Sep 18 2012, 06:38 PM Post #60 |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| OperaTenor | Sep 18 2012, 07:07 PM Post #61 |
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Pisa-Carp
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Liberals pay taxes, conservatives do not, obviously. |
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| ivorythumper | Sep 18 2012, 07:22 PM Post #62 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Just shut up and do your patriotic duty. And thanks for the money, sucker.
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| Axtremus | Sep 18 2012, 07:39 PM Post #63 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Acts 20:35.
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| ivorythumper | Sep 18 2012, 07:42 PM Post #64 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Exactly, which is why we are giving all you liberals the opportunity to be blessed. Bask in it.
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| Amanda | Sep 18 2012, 07:47 PM Post #65 |
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[size=5] We should tolerate eccentricity in others, almost to the point of lunacy, provided no one else is harmed.[/size] "Daily Telegraph", London July 27 2005 | |
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| JBryan | Sep 19 2012, 03:49 AM Post #66 |
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I am the grey one
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Never thought of Wyoming as a bastion of liberalism. North Dakota either, for that matter. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| John D'Oh | Sep 19 2012, 03:54 AM Post #67 |
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MAMIL
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So what you're saying is that even Romney's gaffes are uninformed
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| apple | Sep 19 2012, 03:55 AM Post #68 |
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one of the angels
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I am not sure what a wazzock is but it seems like that name would be a good slogany nickname for Romney. I'd send it in. |
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| Jolly | Sep 19 2012, 04:01 AM Post #69 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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I don't know why people keep calling it a gaffe. It was stone cold Truth. Apparently, people enjoy a smooth lie and find the Truth repugnant. |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| JBryan | Sep 19 2012, 04:14 AM Post #70 |
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I am the grey one
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Of course, as Kinsley said, a gaffe is when a politician unintentionally tells the truth. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| jon-nyc | Sep 19 2012, 04:18 AM Post #71 |
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Cheers
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Perhaps he did tell us the truth about how he sees the country, though as I pointed out above and Lowry's and Ponneru's pieces confirmed, its not a vision that corresponds to the real world. |
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| John D'Oh | Sep 19 2012, 04:23 AM Post #72 |
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MAMIL
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It's not really true that 47% of the population pay no income tax, as noted in the Guardian article above. Whether 47% of the population really consider themselves to be victims is open to some debate, but based on my personal experience of Americans, that also doesn't seem likely. Obviously, Mitt Romney knows way more regular folks than I do, since he gets to spend quality time with butlers, chauffers, investment bankers, boyz in da hood, etc. so his estimates of how normal people feel are bound to be more accurate than mine. in any event, it's a gaffe because it's losing him votes. His job isn't to tell the truth, he's a politician. |
| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| Dan | Sep 19 2012, 06:31 AM Post #73 |
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Which parts do you think are "stone cold Truth" Jolly? Here's the pertinent quote on the 47% "47% are with Obama" - ok sure that's true. It's higher than that, but 47% is true. So I'll just put this into the stone cold Truth column for you. "All right, there are 47% who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government is responsible for them, who believe they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it." Is any of this part of your "stone cold Truth"? Which parts? "These are people who pay no income tax" That same 47%? Stone cold Truth? Or not? And are you focused solely on federal income tax? What about SS, or Medicare taxes? Those are income based. So are state and local taxes. Shouldn't those taxes reduce the 47% number, thereby making it 'untrue'? "my job is not to worry about those people" Shouldn't the president worry about America as a whole, and not just some percentage of it based on who they voted for? Surely you don't see this statement as stone cold Truth, do you? "I'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives." Best case scenario this is simply a throwaway editorial comment for Mitt. I doubt even he believes it. But do you? Stone cold Truth - or not? |
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| Copper | Sep 19 2012, 06:42 AM Post #74 |
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And don't forget all the Mexicans who have to pay tax when they send the money home. They pay tax too. To be fair we all know Mr. Romney was talking about federal income tax. But there is no need to be fair here so carry on. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Dan | Sep 19 2012, 06:47 AM Post #75 |
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Senior Carp
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Holy Cow Copper! Think what would happen to our whole forum if we suddenly instituted a "need to be fair" rule! The whole place would go up in flames. ![]() Besides, Jolly's the one that said Romney's statement was the "stone cold Truth". Not me. Not Romney. I was simply asking fairly for him to clarify his statement. |
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