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| War on Women | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 05:08 AM (252 Views) | |
| Copper | Jun 14 2012, 05:08 AM Post #1 |
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http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/14/world/asia/india-female-infanticide/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Frank_W | Jun 14 2012, 05:13 AM Post #2 |
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Resident Misanthrope
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Sickening and heartbreaking...
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Anatomy Prof: "The human body has about 20 sq. meters of skin." Me: "Man, that's a lot of lampshades!" | |
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| Mikhailoh | Jun 14 2012, 05:21 AM Post #3 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Words fail. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Klaus | Jun 14 2012, 07:54 AM Post #4 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Indeed. Over here some women still fight a bizarre equality war they already won decades ago. They should concentrate their efforts on India. There their efforts would be justified. |
| Trifonov Fleisher Klaus Sokolov Zimmerman | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jun 14 2012, 09:28 AM Post #5 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I read an interesting article recently in the context of software development, about differences culturally that make their way into the finished product. In the article, it spoke about Indian software developers being the most brilliant in the world, but not nearly as good as some of their western counterparts in terms of deliverables and end-product. I knew this to be true from personal experience, so I keenly read the article. It asked the question if deep seeded cultural beliefs trickle up (or down?) - in the case of Indian programmers, those with a belief system including reincarnation seemed to have a worldview with endless chances, and no pressure or stress to get it perfect - the best it can possibly be - on the first run. I'm not saying this is the case necessarily - but I think it's an interesting discussion. Could a similar thing happen in this case? What if a belief in endless chances and no real sense of immediacy or finality leads to a lack of value for life, or at least, a lesser view for the sanctity of *this* life? Edited by KlavierBauer, Jun 14 2012, 09:29 AM.
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| brenda | Jun 14 2012, 09:28 AM Post #6 |
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+1 Abortion is often touted as important to women's health. Often it means the death of girls so they will never become women. |
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“Weeds are flowers, too, once you get to know them.” ~A.A. Milne | |
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| Aqua Letifer | Jun 14 2012, 09:39 AM Post #7 |
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ZOOOOOM!
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This is straying somewhat from the original post, but: Regarding the "trickling" as you put it of cultural beliefs, some of the teachers I work with deal with a lot of extra crap from parents and managers for being women. Nothing concrete of course, but they're spoken to in a way that never happens to me, but I'm younger, probably have equal qualifications, and they've been there much, much longer. I bring this up because in between managers and parents, I can't think of many who aren't immigrants, and some of the most obnoxious sexism comes from the Indian families. The question that always comes to my mind is, how in the world could you bring this problem up without sounding racist? The women are natives to the country, being abused verbally by parents who aren't from here and to even mention this as fact is unacceptable because of how society discerns prejudice. |
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| KlavierBauer | Jun 14 2012, 09:51 AM Post #8 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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In my mind - such issues may exist - we all know and recognize that people and cultures are different. Observing this isn't racist, unless the conclusion is that one race is better all around than another. I had a friend who worked as an RN and sometimes-surgeon in a high mountain clinic in Nepal for a couple years. She always remarked how Americans thought it was so "cool" to be in Nepal, and what a "magical" and amazing place it is. She agreed of course that it was an amazing place - but she had stern warnings as well, about a society based on casts, where people would walk by injured people on the roadside simply because of their gender, or their cast. Mentioning the existence of that, or even questioning it isn't racist (at least not in my opinion). But I can empathize with your position - I was hesitant to even bring up what I did in my first post here, because I wondered if some can even speak objectively about the possibility (or not) for what I proposed to be valid. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Copper | Jun 14 2012, 11:41 AM Post #9 |
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Well if they have a cast they have already been fixed up. e |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jun 14 2012, 11:42 AM Post #10 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jun 14 2012, 11:42 AM Post #11 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Sorry - I just realized I've been typing "cast" instead of "caste." I could blame this on autocorrect, but I was on my laptop, so no-go. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Amanda | Jun 14 2012, 01:45 PM Post #12 |
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Senior Carp
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How could such a carefully and sensitively raised woman (per her mother's words) have married such a Neanderthal brute - apparently never suspecting his true nature and what he was capable of? Bite and burn marks??
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[size=5] We should tolerate eccentricity in others, almost to the point of lunacy, provided no one else is harmed.[/size] "Daily Telegraph", London July 27 2005 | |
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| KlavierBauer | Jun 15 2012, 01:01 AM Post #13 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I don't know the particulars of this couple (forgive me if they're in the piece and I missed them), but it would be very normal in India (especially in a more rural, or lower-income area) for the marriage to be arranged - perhaps even at a very young age. Culturally marriage is very different there, and some of our ideas of "love" and marriage simply don't exist - at least not in the same way. Even if you're educated and more wealthy, you may pick a spouse largely based on family ties, caste, monetary gain (for your family if you're a woman) etc. - the idea of finding your soulmate and falling in love very well may not have existed in this woman's life in the way it would here. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Dewey | Jun 15 2012, 04:39 AM Post #14 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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It's supposed conventional wisdom that the European-based missionaries who originally went to Hawaii were nothing but negative influences, applying a rigid, Puritanical understanding of morality onto what was supposedly an ideal, noble culture among the indigenous people. Supposedly, they swept in and ruined everything when their Western sensibilities were appalled by the women running around topless, and they started forcing the women to cover themselves. But what conventional wisdom fails to mention is that these same rigid missionaries also stepped into a culture where this exact same selective abortion of females, and the practice of allowing female newborns to simply die from neglect and exposure, was very common. Within a generation, their influence almost completely wiped out this terrible practice that had just a short while before been a cultural norm. And the exact same thing happened when Christianity gained influence over the prevailing earlier cultural norms in the Roman Empire, where selective abortion and infanticide of females was rampant. |
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