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Cougars rebound
Topic Started: Jun 14 2012, 12:26 AM (292 Views)
Axtremus
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HOLY CARP!!!
Article:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18425472
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jon-nyc
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I have all the luck. This would happen when I'm already married and in my 40s.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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blondie
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Quite seriously, they are in our city. There are parks, trails where we won't go because of them. They need to be shot.
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Piano*Dad
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You know, my first thought about this topic was .....


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blondie
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Gotta love a vintage ride.
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jon-nyc
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Yep. Franklin had it pegged.
In my defense, I was left unsupervised.
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Frank_W
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Sweet car, PD! :)

Around here, there have been persistent rumors and accounts for years, of a mountain lion prowling around thick woods and remote farms. I'm inclined to believe them.
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I blame Courtney Cox.
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JBryan
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I am the grey one
We have a cougar prowling around out neighborhood too. So far she has shown no interest in me.
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John D'Oh
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JBryan
Jun 14 2012, 08:31 AM
We have a cougar prowling around out neighborhood too. So far she has shown no interest in me.
You could try offering her a vintage ride.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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Piano*Dad
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JBryan
Jun 14 2012, 08:31 AM
We have a cougar prowling around out neighborhood too. So far she has shown no interest in me.
What's her name?
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KlavierBauer
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JBryan: Of course she isn't - cougars are only interested in one very specific prey. I myself am at the very end of the acceptability spectrum.

But seriously - Here we have both cougars, and mountain lions. The only difference of course, being at which altitude they are spotted.
Our high school mascot was a cougar, and as a young man I once came across a live one after months of people speculating there was one lurking about (lots of large cat tracks, dogs disappearing, etc.). I was delivering pizzas at the time, and just happened upon it as it was crossing the road in front of me. I stopped in my jeep and just watched it gracefully trot across the road and leap over a fence.

Such a beautiful creature...

Most of their interactions with the public don't go so well though. As beautiful as they are, and as much as I respect them, they're much harder to coexist with than bears.
Bears attack people, but not as predators (well, black bears do sometimes, but that's a separate discussion). Mountain lions, once they've learned that humans are made of meat, will attack over and over again.
The most notable of these situations is the mountain lion in California who attacked a mountain biker when the biker startled it. After it realized humans were good food, and super easy to kill, it perched up behind a bush in one of this single-track's corners, and just started waiting for meals on wheels.
They couldn't safely relocate the lion, because it now understood the advantage it had hunting humans, and would've found its way back to human population.

I struggle a lot with the front where man and nature collide.
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brenda
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jon-nyc
Jun 14 2012, 12:38 AM
I have all the luck. This would happen when I'm already married and in my 40s.
Says the guy who wanted to pop a cap in Florence Henderson's behind. ;)
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Piano*Dad
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The problem, of course, is as much that we have moved into their territory as they have moved into ours. Mountain Lion attacks on people remain exceedingly rare. They generally avoid people.
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KlavierBauer
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They do generally avoid people - until they realize they can hunt them.
Once they learn that, the death toll rises dramatically, and quickly.

Just several years ago, a friend witnessed a mountain lion attack in Boulder at Chautauqua park - which is in Boulder proper, not out in the wilderness. It's an iconic trailhead and park, with hundreds milling about at any given time.
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At the parking area, as a family was returning to their vehicle, the mountain lion grabbed their child by the head (yes, by the head), and dragged it off to the bushes to kill and eat.
My friend and two other men (including the child's father) rushed after, and followed the lion into the bushes, and successfully retrieved the child, and saving its life.

You're right - that they much prefer a solitary existence, and for that I'm grateful. But when they do collide with man, the result is often bad.
I don't know what the answer is, but I do understand that sometimes they need to be disposed of - as much as such realities hurt me inside.
Edited by KlavierBauer, Jun 14 2012, 09:56 AM.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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Piano*Dad
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I have wandered those trails. Gives one paws ....

I wouldn't take that anecdote too far, however. The number of ML attacks on people in any given year is trivial. Even if it rises by a large amount, it'll probably never get near the risk of being struck by lightning or attacked by a shark. There are risks of living with large wild animals nearby. The alternative to those risks is continued extirpation of the sort I thought we had gotten beyond.
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KlavierBauer
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The number of ML attacks on people in any given year is trivial.

Agreed - I'm not saying it's significant in volume.
I merely was saying that while I hate that we have to, we sometimes have to destroy animals. In this case, because when on ML attacks, it is often habit forming, unlike a Grizzly who wanders too close to folks and protects her cubs.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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KlavierBauer
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And yes, being born and raised here, I know all too well the risks we take when we live in and around large apex predators.

Transplants to CO think it's ridiculous that I'd bring a sidearm camping, and I think it's ridiculous that they hike a 14er in jogging shorts and a track jacket with no day pack, paracord, multi-tool, etc.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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John D'Oh
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I initially read that as MIL attacks. Strangely appropriate.

Still, it could be worse, if you add an 'F'.
What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket?
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KlavierBauer
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MILF attacks are at an all time high here in CO.

Ever since Elway's was voted the best Cougar hangout in town, it's been open season on buff 20-somethings.
"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper
"He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple

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