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| Copper | Mar 5 2012, 05:01 PM Post #176 |
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Shortstop
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She caused this thread. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 5 2012, 05:37 PM Post #177 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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No Dewey -- you evidently are hell bent on arguing, or you would not make caricatures of my views and then assert your own -- all the while claiming you don't want an argument. You obviously don't have anything better to do or you would not do what you've been doing all along. You want to quarrel, I want a discussion. If you don't want a discussion, then just walk away and don't take cheap shots when exiting. |
| The dogma lives loudly within me. | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 5 2012, 05:38 PM Post #178 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Evidently not. |
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| Larry | Mar 5 2012, 06:30 PM Post #179 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Well I'm a lesbian, I don't care what the rest of you do..... |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 5 2012, 06:33 PM Post #180 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Larry's got the problem licked. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Larry | Mar 5 2012, 06:38 PM Post #181 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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I pulled the rug right out from under their argument, huh...... |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 5 2012, 06:40 PM Post #182 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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NOMinally, yes. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| Larry | Mar 5 2012, 06:40 PM Post #183 |
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Mmmmmmm, pie!
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Snatched it right out.... |
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Of the Pokatwat Tribe | |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 5 2012, 06:42 PM Post #184 |
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MAMIL
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Will no one rid me of this turbulent woman? |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 8 2012, 08:23 AM Post #185 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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Does it matter is she's a self professed Buddhist? |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 8 2012, 08:26 AM Post #186 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Amazing. Perhaps it is she that should be sued. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 8 2012, 08:32 AM Post #187 |
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MAMIL
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Surely burning her at the stake would be more appropriate. |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 8 2012, 08:38 AM Post #188 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Buddhist, man. Self-immolation is where it's at for those guys. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| somebody else's sock | Mar 8 2012, 09:10 AM Post #189 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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Many Christians find value in other teachings. Like this Catholic theologian interviewed for an article for the National Catholic Reporter: http://ncronline.org/news/double-belonging-buddhism-and-christian-faith
Edited by somebody else's sock, Mar 8 2012, 09:20 AM.
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| Renauda | Mar 8 2012, 09:34 AM Post #190 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That should make more than just a few fundamentalist heads exlpode from superstition induced apoplexy. |
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| Mikhailoh | Mar 8 2012, 09:35 AM Post #191 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Cafeteria plans for faith.
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| somebody else's sock | Mar 8 2012, 09:40 AM Post #192 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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Did you read the article, Mik? It's not "cafeteria plans" at all.
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| ivorythumper | Mar 8 2012, 09:40 AM Post #193 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I'm not sure that has anything to do with the subject. There is a lot of overlap in spiritual practices between monks in various religions, and there is a lot of interfaith dialogue. Whether one can be a practicing and believing Buddhist and a practicing and believing Christian is a different matter. And for some reason, I think that a person aggressively presenting herself to receive Catholic communion as a grandstanding political statement seems hardly to be a model of Buddhist introspection and humility. BTW, "Michael once told me that Christianity is long on content but short on method and technique." is a bizarre statement from a former monk -- the Christian tradition has a massive inventory of meditation and contemplation and spiritual "techniques", from the Hesychasts, to the Jesus Prayer, to the Rosary, to Eucharistic Adoration, to the Divine Mercy, to the Consecration to the Sacred Heart, to the Mass and the sacraments, to the examination of conscience, to the works of mercy, to the Liturgy of the Hours, etc. Edited by ivorythumper, Mar 8 2012, 09:46 AM.
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| KlavierBauer | Mar 8 2012, 10:10 AM Post #194 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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This^^ |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| kenny | Mar 8 2012, 10:16 AM Post #195 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Lar, are you more of a lipstick lesbian or a rather large Dyke on Bike? |
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| Dewey | Mar 8 2012, 02:30 PM Post #196 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Yes, I would think that it would. Is that what she told the priest, and is that why he refused to serve her? |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 8 2012, 03:26 PM Post #197 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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I have no idea what transpired between the two of them. But isn't it still down to her conscience whether she receives communion from you? You're not the guardian. |
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| John D'Oh | Mar 8 2012, 04:04 PM Post #198 |
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MAMIL
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Maybe he tried to shag her in the vestry and she spurned his clumsy advances, earning his mighty wrath and most righteous wos'name. That happened at my grandmother's funeral. Or maybe it was my brother's wedding. One of those, anyway. How was I to know it wasn't fancy dress? |
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| Dewey | Mar 8 2012, 06:43 PM Post #199 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I believe that if you read my several posts in this thread, you'll note that I've consistently said that the sacrament is intended for "baptized believers;" "all those who trust in the name of the Lord." Yes, it is a Christian rite. Beyond that, I'm not to be a "guardian" who would block believers from the sacrament. As far as what was said to the priest, I'd say that if she told him she was Buddhist, and he refused her the sacrament for that reason, that's the very first thing the priest, the bishop, and anyone else involved in the incident would have pointed out. There's nothing wrong about denying a Buddhist from participating in the Christian Eucharist, and certainly nothing for which an apology needed to have been issued for. Clearly, by the church's actions, this was not the case. She was denied communion because of her sexuality. But make no mistake: my gripe in this case has very little to do with the specifics of "the gay issue," and it isn't an "anti-Catholic thing." My issue here is "closed table" theology. We've discussed it at length before; I think that it's a terrible theology and something that any church who espouses it will ultimately have to answer for to God, in that is sets up an improper obstacle for believers' participation in something that the Lord has commanded us to participate in. |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| ivorythumper | Mar 8 2012, 09:39 PM Post #200 |
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I am so adjective that I verb nouns!
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But she's also a baptized christian... so how do you not communicate her? |
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