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| Where's the Catholic Church must cover contraception and abortion thread? | |
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| Tweet Topic Started: Feb 7 2012, 05:07 PM (1,508 Views) | |
| George K | Feb 7 2012, 05:07 PM Post #1 |
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Finally
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Just askin'.... |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Feb 7 2012, 05:08 PM Post #2 |
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Cheers
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Here. |
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| George K | Feb 7 2012, 05:09 PM Post #3 |
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Oh. TXH!
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Feb 7 2012, 05:12 PM Post #4 |
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MAMIL
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| What do you mean "we", have you got a mouse in your pocket? | |
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| George K | Feb 7 2012, 05:24 PM Post #5 |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| Copper | Feb 7 2012, 05:34 PM Post #6 |
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Shortstop
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The Constitution just says the feds won't establish a religion. It doesn't say they won't destroy one. The problem with the feds getting involved with this is that the pendulum always swings both ways. Then it just escalates. |
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The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy | |
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| Improviso | Feb 7 2012, 05:36 PM Post #7 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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Identifying narcissists isn't difficult. Just look for the person who is constantly fishing for compliments and admiration while breaking down over even the slightest bit of criticism. We have the freedom to choose our actions, but we do not get to choose our consequences. | |
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| Jolly | Feb 7 2012, 05:38 PM Post #8 |
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Geaux Tigers!
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Two dumb broads: A. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV-05TLiiLU Well, we told ya so... B. http://www.weeklystandard.com/blogs/dem-rep-kathy-dahlkemper-i-wouldnt-have-voted-obamacare-if-id-known-about-hhs-regulation_626302.html |
| The main obstacle to a stable and just world order is the United States.- George Soros | |
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| George K | Feb 7 2012, 05:42 PM Post #9 |
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What I want to know is why the Catholic Church supported Obamacare. Surely they saw this in the bill, didn't they? http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/jul/09072905
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| John D'Oh | Feb 7 2012, 06:23 PM Post #10 |
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MAMIL
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Being virtuous doesn't automatically make you smart, apparently.
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| Big John | Feb 7 2012, 06:34 PM Post #11 |
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Senior Carp
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I think they supported it because it's going to be a cash cow for them. |
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| jon-nyc | Feb 8 2012, 12:58 AM Post #12 |
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Cheers
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But seriously, the church is exempted. |
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| George K | Feb 8 2012, 04:07 AM Post #13 |
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It is? If so, why are the bishops all upset? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Feb 8 2012, 04:08 AM Post #14 |
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Religious-affiliated institutions are not exempt. (unis, hospitals, etc) |
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| George K | Feb 8 2012, 04:10 AM Post #15 |
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Oh, I see the distinction you're making. But a question, then (and I gotta run to work in about 3 minutes): If, lets say, I worked as a secretary for the Archdiocese of Chicago as a secretary, would my employer be required to cover the morning after pill? |
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A guide to GKSR: Click "Now look here, you Baltic gas passer... " - Mik, 6/14/08 Nothing is as effective as homeopathy. I'd rather listen to an hour of Abba than an hour of The Beatles. - Klaus, 4/29/18 | |
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| jon-nyc | Feb 8 2012, 04:41 AM Post #16 |
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I think not, but if she worked at a catholic hospital they would. |
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| Dewey | Feb 8 2012, 05:01 AM Post #17 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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That's the trade-off. Government can't and shouldn't give funding to a church or other religious institution; that would be a First Amendment violation. But if a church creates a separate nonprofit corporation which has some other purpose than worshipping and promoting the faith, it is eligible for federal funding. But with that separating of function and legal structure from the church, it becomes an organization just like any similar secular one, regardless of how many clergy may be appointed its trustees or directors; and the organization must comply with the same federal stipulations for receiving the money as anyone else. You can't set up a separate corporation to be "not the church" so you can get the money, but then claim you *are* the church to avoid its stipulations. And that is the same whether it's Sacred Heart, Riverside Methodist, or Prebyterian Memorial Hospital. |
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"By nature, i prefer brevity." - John Calvin, Institutes of the Christian Religion, p. 685. "Never waste your time trying to explain yourself to people who are committed to misunderstanding you." - Anonymous "Oh sure, every once in a while a turd floated by, but other than that it was just fine." - Joe A., 2011 I'll answer your other comments later, but my primary priority for the rest of the evening is to get drunk." - Klaus, 12/31/14 | |
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| Mikhailoh | Feb 8 2012, 06:36 AM Post #18 |
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If you want trouble, find yourself a redhead
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Religiously affiliated hospitals have been the cornerstone of our healthcare system from day one. The problem is we let the federal government in to begin with. Nice little hospital you got there. Too bad if something happened to it. This is government thuggery. |
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Once in his life, every man is entitled to fall madly in love with a gorgeous redhead - Lucille Ball | |
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| somebody else's sock | Feb 8 2012, 08:10 AM Post #19 |
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Middle Aged Carp
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http://www.freep.com/article/20120208/NEWS07/120208008/Survey-Majority-of-Catholics-support-including-birth-control-in-health-care-plans?odyssey=tab|mostpopular|text|FRONTPAGE
Edited by somebody else's sock, Feb 8 2012, 08:12 AM.
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| JBryan | Feb 8 2012, 08:38 AM Post #20 |
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I am the grey one
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Great, when the Catholic Church becomes a democracy that might mean something. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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| Axtremus | Feb 8 2012, 08:42 AM Post #21 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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The USA is a democracy, so regardless of how many churches that aren't, it means something right here in the USA. |
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| KlavierBauer | Feb 8 2012, 08:43 AM Post #22 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I think you're missing JBryan's point. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| Axtremus | Feb 8 2012, 08:45 AM Post #23 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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I'm saying he's got a the wrong point. |
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| KlavierBauer | Feb 8 2012, 08:46 AM Post #24 |
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HOLY CARP!!!
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And the USA isn't a Democracy... I would accept Constitutional Republic or Representative Republic. |
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"I realize you want him to touch you all over and give you babies, but his handling of the PR side really did screw the pooch." - Ivory Thumper "He said sleepily: "Don't worry mom, my dick is like hot logs in the morning." - Apple | |
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| JBryan | Feb 8 2012, 08:46 AM Post #25 |
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I am the grey one
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Ax is the supreme master at missing the point. |
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"Any man who would make an X rated movie should be forced to take his daughter to see it". - John Wayne There is a line we cross when we go from "I will believe it when I see it" to "I will see it when I believe it". Henry II: I marvel at you after all these years. Still like a democratic drawbridge: going down for everybody. Eleanor: At my age there's not much traffic anymore. From The Lion in Winter. | |
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