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A thought on this day.
Topic Started: Dec 7 2011, 06:39 AM (778 Views)
VPG
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It was a really cold afternoon. A bunch of us kids went to a Sunday afternoon matinée at the Kent Theatre In Philadelphia.
In "Philly" those day's they had the Blue Laws. No bars open on Sunday, and the movies could not open before 2:00 P M.
Not long after the show started, the Western was always first on double feature day's, a slide was put up at the bottom of the screen announcing that the Japanese had attacked Pearl Harbor
on the Hawaiian Islands. As kids we had no idea what the hell that meant. I asked one of the Ushers, an old guy about sixteen, and he said it looks like we're going to go to war.
I went back to my seat and told the other guy's. The kid sitting next to me, Carl, he said. "do you think your older brothers would go"? I thought they would. I asked him about his Father.
Carl's Father was killed just about two years later in the Pacific.
Give some thought about December 7, 1941.



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Dec 7 2011, 06:39 AM
It was a really cold afternoon.

There is a nip in the air today.
The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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Thanks Vince. That is well worth remembering and gives me much to think about today.
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Thanks, Vince, for remembering for all of us and for a personal note on this day.
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http://photoblog.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2011/12/07/9263923-pearl-harbor-from-above-1941-2011?fb_ref=.Tt9ht64RXnc.like&fb_source=home_oneline

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Pearl Harbor from above, 1941-2011

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A satellite picture of Pearl Harbor, acquired in September, shows the USS Missouri docked at Battleship Row as a museum ship, with its bow pointing toward the USS Arizona memorial at upper right. The wreck of the Arizona can be seen below the white memorial, its faint outline just barely visible beneath the water's surface.

Alan Boyle writes

Seventy years after a "date which will live in infamy," this satellite image of Pearl Harbor shows the symbols of a war's beginning and end.

The symbol of the end is more evident: The USS Missouri sits at its dock at Ford Island in the Hawaiian harbor, serving as a museum ship. In 1945, the "Mighty Mo" was the stage for the formal Japanese surrender at the end of World War II. After almost a half-century of service, the battleship was decommissioned for good in 1992 and took its place on Pearl Harbor's Battleship Row in 1998.

The Missouri wasn't even afloat on Dec. 7, 1941, when Japanese airplanes bombed the harbor and drew the United States into the war. But the battleship Arizona was. In the satellite picture above, snapped in September and provided by GeoEye, the outlines of the Arizona are barely visible at upper right, beneath the surface of the water. The USS Arizona Memorial is the white structure sitting above the ship.

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The scene was quite different in 1941, on what President Franklin Roosevelt dubbed a day of infamy. The aerial photograph you see below, taken from U.S. Navy archives, shows the wreckage in the harbor on Dec. 10, 1941, three days after the attack. Dark trails of oil stream from the dead and damaged ships. From this altitude, you get a sense of the attack's toll on the U.S. fleet, but not of the human cost: 2,390 Americans killed, 1,178 wounded.

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This aerial photograph of Pearl Harbor's Battleship Row was captured on Dec. 10, 1941, after the Japanese attack. The sunken USS California is at upper left. The capsized Oklahoma and the Maryland are at left center, the sunken West Virginia and the lightly damaged Tennessee are at lower center, The sunken Arizona is at lower right, in the same position where it lies today. Dark streaks of oil stream from the damaged vessels.

Today, veterans, family members and dignitaries are gathering at Pearl Harbor to commemorate the 70th anniversary. Flags are flying at half-staff. And Americans are looking back at the events of 1941 from a remote perspective, as if from a great height.




The Confederate soldier was peculiar in that he was ever ready to fight, but never ready to submit to the routine duty and discipline of the camp or the march. The soldiers were determined to be soldiers after their own notions, and do their duty, for the love of it, as they thought best. Carlton McCarthy
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I was thinking about Pearl Harbor this morning and wondered how long the day will live in infamy. Other than historians, I wonder how many recall the dates of many (or any) battles in earlier wars this country has fought.

I was born after WW II so I have no recollections, only second-hand stories that I read, heard, or saw, but it was so near my era that I knew many veterans of that conflict. To younger generations, it must be as removed as the Spanish-American War or WW I were to me.

In that sense, I think the change of Armistice Day to Veterans or Remembrance Day was a good decision. It's a time to honor the memory of all veterans of all battles and wars, not just a certain or recent one.

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This was actually the pivotal event of the 20th century in my opinion. It forced the US to expand its horizons beyond the western hemisphere. If that had not happened, in Europe, either the Germans or the Soviets would have dominated. In Asia, the Japanese military would have plundered at will. The western hemisphere would have economically died on the vine, so to speak. The JFK assassination and 9/11 pale in comparison with regards to long term consequences.

I would very much like to hear Renauda's opinion on this, with his in depth knowledge of history.
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HOLY CARP!!!
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HOLY CARP!!!
Interesting how things change overtime - not sure why it was but even though Vietnam was supposedly all over the evening news, I was never aware it was going on until about 1974, when it was all but over. I was born in March, 1963, so maybe I was just too young and my parents didn't watch the news.
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brenda
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Powerful memory, Vince. Thanks for sharing.
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Pearl Harbor Survivors group to disband

They carried the banner for 70 years.

God bless them.
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very poignant

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Saw that this morning, IT. Sad but almost surprising the group is still around.
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