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Take Up The Cross
Topic Started: Nov 24 2011, 04:34 AM (1,985 Views)
John D'Oh
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This is oddly similar to the phrase 'I couldn't give a dam', a dam being an Indian coin of very low value.
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Larry
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There's not a f*cking thing wrong with my reading or comprehension skills.

There *is* however, something wrong with yours.
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John D'Oh
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How would Christian soldiers feel if they walked into a multi-faith chapel and were greeted by a large statue of Ganesh? Would anybody mention the elephant in the room?
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And on top of it all, I've succeeded in showing you to be a bigoted and ignorant ass while simultaneously finishing tomorrow's sermon. Multitasking at its best, I'd say.


Having read some of your sermons, I can't imagine it presented much of a problem to you.
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LWpianistin
Nov 26 2011, 07:12 PM
There have been so many manuals cited in this thread, I don't even know which year this is from. But, the term 'ritual washing' can be applied to religions other than Christianity, so, yes, it can be said that the manual is/was talking about muslims and hindus.
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No, it's not the 1950's.

Sadly, it's not the 1950's. In the 1950's, the US. was the preeminent economy of the world. We were a superpower without peer. We were the envy of the world.

Today, though we be diverse (and we have always been diverse, we just did a better job of using the mighty melting pot which is the United States), we have come to a point where we must appease everybody, thereby negating our greatest strength.

Tear down the cross. We are no longer a Christian nation. It won't be very long until we are not a nation, at all.
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Thank god it's not the 50's anymore. I could NOT wear stockings and those ugly shoes all the time. Oh, and the whole women-being-second-class thing too....yeah, not a fan. Now, the 20's or even 30's, sure I'd go there.
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LWpianistin
Nov 27 2011, 06:25 AM
Thank god it's not the 50's anymore. I could NOT wear stockings and those ugly shoes all the time. Oh, and the whole women-being-second-class thing too....yeah, not a fan. Now, the 20's or even 30's, sure I'd go there.
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I rest my case.
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I hope so because they all rest on peace.
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LWpianistin
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Oh, I thought of that part, too, but I wouldn't be wearing stuff like that, Jolly. As with all eras, there are some great fashions and some horrible ones. Overall, I don't like the 50's housewife outfits.
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Renauda
Nov 27 2011, 06:45 AM
I hope so because they all rest on peace.
Oh, I'd say all of them represented a marvelous peace, back in their day.
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Overall, I don't like the 50's housewife outfits.


Oh, I don't know...leave the pearls and the heels, take away everything else and I think you'd look quite smashing.

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Jolly
Nov 27 2011, 06:04 AM
Sadly, it's not the 1950's. In the 1950's, the US. was the preeminent economy of the world.


True then and still the preeminent economy

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We were a superpower without peer.


True then and now a mega superpower without peer.

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We were the envy of the world.


Really now? I don't recall ever hearing people say that or being raised to think that way. Not in the least as a matter of fact.

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Today, though we be diverse (and we have always been diverse, we just did a better job of using the mighty melting pot which is the United States), we have come to a point where we must appease everybody, thereby negating our greatest strength.


Appease? No, you simply have to live among others and take into account that their national interests may not always correspond to the USA's. That is not appeasement, that is good foreign relations.

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Tear down the cross. We are no longer a Christian nation. It won't be very long until we are not a nation, at all.


Still hanging on and broadcasting that fourth Rome/American exceptionalism myth hyperbole, eh?
That, neighbour, is why the US is no longer the envy of others.





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Axtremus
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Jolly, check out the income tax rates in the 1950's ... you would so love the 1950's!!!! :excited:
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Renauda
Nov 27 2011, 07:47 AM
that is good foreign relations.

And that is an area in which the US has been lacking. Greatly.
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Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again...
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At least in the 1950's, a family could be supported one worker's earnings.
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Take a look around, Dorothy. You ain't in the 1950's anymore.
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At least in the 1950's, a family could be supported one worker's earnings.


And I suppose we could again. All we have to do is tell the women they all have to stay at home, leaving a smaller workforce to bid up the wages of the menfolk. Personally, I prefer the current scenario.

And that supposed melting pot of the 50s wasn't all it was cracked up to be, either. When you throw different things into a melting pot, everything in it takes on some of the characteristics of the various things being melted. In the U.S., when various ethnic and racial cultures came together, there was some small amount of blending like that, but not much. More often than not, "melting pot" just came to mean "assimilate and be as much like us white Anglo-Americans as you can." I'd suggest there's actually much more "melting" going on in today's diverse cultural mixing - from literal,biological to cultural - than there ever was before in the history of the country. And instead of extolling the virtues of the *real* melting pot we're experiencing now, people are screaming about losing our culture and complaining about cultural diversity just being politically correct crap - codewords for social Marxism.
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Nov 27 2011, 10:57 AM
Mister we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again...
Strictly speaking, with the 50's we'd get that well known libertarian J. Edgar rather than Herbert.

I for one have absolutely no desire to re-visit the 1950's.
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Jolly
Nov 27 2011, 02:05 PM
At least in the 1950's, a family could be supported one worker's earnings.
Yeah ... About one in three workers were union back then, as opposed to about one in eight today. See what happened when the labor unions were strong? You would so love the 1950's!!!! :excited:
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Nov 27 2011, 02:48 PM
Just for the tailfins, brothers. Just for the tailfins.
The tailfins are oddly symbolic - sure, they're pretty, but you can't have them without also having the monstrosity which they were connected to.
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Nov 27 2011, 02:20 PM
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At least in the 1950's, a family could be supported one worker's earnings.


And I suppose we could again. All we have to do is tell the women they all have to stay at home, leaving a smaller workforce to bid up the wages of the menfolk. Personally, I prefer the current scenario.

And that supposed melting pot of the 50s wasn't all it was cracked up to be, either. When you throw different things into a melting pot, everything in it takes on some of the characteristics of the various things being melted. In the U.S., when various ethnic and racial cultures came together, there was some small amount of blending like that, but not much. More often than not, "melting pot" just came to mean "assimilate and be as much like us white Anglo-Americans as you can." I'd suggest there's actually much more "melting" going on in today's diverse cultural mixing - from literal,biological to cultural - than there ever was before in the history of the country. And instead of extolling the virtues of the *real* melting pot we're experiencing now, people are screaming about losing our culture and complaining about cultural diversity just being politically correct crap - codewords for social Marxism.
And you think this crap we have today is a superior culture?

You think abortion on demand is a superior culture?

You think a divorce rate of 50% is a superior culture?

You think two-wage earner families are superior to one wage-earner families?

You think a 24/7 society is better than a society that has home time, such as the traditional M-F workweek?

You think this culture which produces children who cannot read, much less do simple mathematics superior to a culture with a higher rate of literacy?

You think the out-of-wedlock pregnancy rate of today is a superior culture?

Do you think the rate of welfare usage of today shows a superior culture?

I could go on, but I want you to show me how today's culture is superior to that which we had 50 years ago...aside from some civil rights areas, I don't think you can.

As for the melting pot, yes, I would stipulate its greatest success is molding many different peoples into one essential culture. When you take that away, we will be no different than any other great society on the brink of extinction.

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